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    re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    And that is why the forum poster apdst made the crack "Most Canadians don't know what real freedom is, like we do here in The United States of America, so that's understandable." if you don't think what the DOJ did didn't violate the spirit of the law you have grown accustomed to your government pulling **** like that here in America we are not
    Now, that's nonsense too. Only a court of law can determine that a person or party's legal rights have been abused by the government or any other party. Declaring it on a forum doesn't cut it. I didn't say I didn't agree with you that it may have violated the spirit of the law, but if a justice signed off on the subpoena, only a court can quash that subpoena unless the justice withdraws it him/herself.
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    re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Good evening MMC - I'm not aware of any actual wiretapping, only rumours of such - is there any definitive source that confirms this?
    Well, what did the DOJ seize? If they had no subpenoa?

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    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That's not entirely accurate.
    i stand corrected thanks for pointing that out i went and looked it up i guess you learn something every day, but it still holds true that he violated the spirit of the law with that over reaching subpoena

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    Difference is we don't idolize our founding fathers like they were gods.
    For reasons even we backwards Americans can understand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well, what did the DOJ seize? If they had no subpenoa?
    phone records business cell and personal from over 200 AP reporters over a two month period. the DOJ went fishing and you are not allowed to do that
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    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well, what did the DOJ seize? If they had no subpenoa?
    As I understand it, they seized telephone records, like your cellphone bill, from either the AP or the telecom company(s) they use. They did not seek to tap their phones going forward. The leak occurred over a year ago.
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    re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    As I understand it, they seized telephone records, like your cellphone bill, from either the AP or the telecom company(s) they use. They did not seek to tap their phones going forward. The leak occurred over a year ago.


    As I understand it, under the Patriot Act, hasn't alot of this extra power of surveillance already been legalized ?......................

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    As I understand it, under the Patriot Act, hasn't alot of this extra power of surveillance already been legalized ?......................
    Wiretapping can only take place between a party in the US and a party outside the US, not on a call between two parties within the US, unless a warrant has been granted before the tap takes place. That's my understanding of the act.
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    re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    This is so reminiscent of the Clinton years where the GOP investigated all these "gates" in a row to try and smear the presidency. Whitewatergate... travelgate and just kept moving the goalposts until they tripped across a stained dress.
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    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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