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    Re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

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    Susan Rice had no business going on the talk shows and either willingly or unknowingly lied to the American people. What did Susan Rice know about Benghazi? She was given inaccurate talking points which she presented. That was designed to help the President in the election for it was Obama who claimed that al Qaeda was on the run. It was a terrorist attack, period, end of discussion. The Obama Administration lied to the American people and four Americans are dead with no one in custody or prosecuted for that action. Your loyalty is staggering though misguided
    Sorry, Con, you are wrong!!!


    David Ignatius: Benghazi intelligence revealed - The Washington Post

    The Romney campaign may have misfired with its suggestion that statements by President Obama and U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice about the Benghazi attack last month weren’t supported by intelligence, according to documents provided by a senior U.S. intelligence official.

    “Talking points” prepared by the CIA on Sept. 15, the same day that Rice taped three television appearances, support her description of the Sept. 11 attack on the U.S. Consulate as a reaction to Arab anger about an anti-Muslim video prepared in the United States. According to the CIA account, “The currently available information suggests that the demonstrations in Benghazi were spontaneously inspired by the protests at the U.S. Embassy in Cairo and evolved into a direct assault against the U.S. Consulate and subsequently its annex. There are indications that extremists participated in the violent demonstrations.”

    The CIA document went on: “This assessment may change as additional information is collected and analyzed and as currently available information continues to be evaluated.” This may sound like self-protective boilerplate, but it reflects the analysts’ genuine problem interpreting fragments of intercepted conversation, video surveillance and source reports.....

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    Re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Nope. Unlike GWB who took his eye off the prize and decided that the best thing to do was not go after those who attacked us, but rather use the 9/11 attacks as a rationale for engaging in a decades old neo-con agenda to invade Iraq....Obama....campaigned on the issue of refocusing and going after those who attacked us...and he did just that. See...Conservative.....when you take your focus off the job you generally don't have good results.


    Yes, your hero has done a wonderful job getting people to drop out of the labor force, letting the Muslim Brotherhood take over Egypt, North Korea build a nuke, letting our Ambassador die, allowing Iran to grow influence in Iraq and around the rest of the region. He is a true legend in your mind.

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    Re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

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    White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up | Fox News

    More examples of Obama incompetence and yet where is the outrage from the left?



    The GOP lost the election so now they are trying to win by other means.

    Not going to work because the American people aren't buying it.





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    Re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Sorry, Con, you are wrong!!!


    David Ignatius: Benghazi intelligence revealed - The Washington Post

    The Romney campaign may have misfired with its suggestion that statements by President Obama and U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice about the Benghazi attack last month weren’t supported by intelligence, according to documents provided by a senior U.S. intelligence official.

    “Talking points” prepared by the CIA on Sept. 15, the same day that Rice taped three television appearances, support her description of the Sept. 11 attack on the U.S. Consulate as a reaction to Arab anger about an anti-Muslim video prepared in the United States. According to the CIA account, “The currently available information suggests that the demonstrations in Benghazi were spontaneously inspired by the protests at the U.S. Embassy in Cairo and evolved into a direct assault against the U.S. Consulate and subsequently its annex. There are indications that extremists participated in the violent demonstrations.”

    The CIA document went on: “This assessment may change as additional information is collected and analyzed and as currently available information continues to be evaluated.” This may sound like self-protective boilerplate, but it reflects the analysts’ genuine problem interpreting fragments of intercepted conversation, video surveillance and source reports.....
    You are so right, protesters always go to spontaneous rallies with rocket propelled grenades and heavy arms. You want to believe that Rice and the CIA didn't lie to you, so be it, nothing it seems is going to ever change your mind about the competence of this President and his Administration. He was too busy fund raising to take an active role but that is apparently ok for liberals never take responsibility for any failures.

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    Re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    The GOP lost the election so now they are trying to win by other means.

    Not going to work because the American people aren't buying it.





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    The country lost with this last election as the economic results show. Too bad rhetoric trumps reality in the Obama supporter world.

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    Re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    The GOP lost the election so now they are trying to win by other means.

    Not going to work because the American people aren't buying it..
    Did I miss a more recent election? how do you know what the American people are buying?

    answer - you don't.

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    Re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Sorry, Con, you are wrong!!!


    David Ignatius: Benghazi intelligence revealed - The Washington Post

    The Romney campaign may have misfired with its suggestion that statements by President Obama and U.N. Ambassador Susan Rice about the Benghazi attack last month weren’t supported by intelligence, according to documents provided by a senior U.S. intelligence official.

    “Talking points” prepared by the CIA on Sept. 15, the same day that Rice taped three television appearances, support her description of the Sept. 11 attack on the U.S. Consulate as a reaction to Arab anger about an anti-Muslim video prepared in the United States. According to the CIA account, “The currently available information suggests that the demonstrations in Benghazi were spontaneously inspired by the protests at the U.S. Embassy in Cairo and evolved into a direct assault against the U.S. Consulate and subsequently its annex. There are indications that extremists participated in the violent demonstrations.”

    The CIA document went on: “This assessment may change as additional information is collected and analyzed and as currently available information continues to be evaluated.” This may sound like self-protective boilerplate, but it reflects the analysts’ genuine problem interpreting fragments of intercepted conversation, video surveillance and source reports.....
    Btw, if you believe this you also have to conclude that the CIA is as useless as tits on a board. Time to defund them and save ourselves the trouble of trying to recover from their next black box project.

    So, which is it? Are they covering some POTUS ass, and their own, or should they be ****canned for total incompetence?

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    Re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Yes, your hero has done a wonderful job getting people to drop out of the labor force, letting the Muslim Brotherhood take over Egypt, North Korea build a nuke, letting our Ambassador die, allowing Iran to grow influence in Iraq and around the rest of the region. He is a true legend in your mind.
    Wow...that was completely off point. Nice string of talking points unrelated to the discussion. I guess deflect and shuffle is your mantra?
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    Re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    The GOP lost the election so now they are trying to win by other means.

    Not going to work because the American people aren't buying it.





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    What you want to ignore

    Obama?s tapped-out trust - Washington Post

    Obama’s tapped-out trust

    By George F. Will, Published: May 16

    Leaving aside the seriousness of lawlessness, and the corruption of our civic culture by the professionally pious, this past week has been amusing. There was the spectacle of advocates of an ever-larger regulatory government expressing shock about such government’s large capacity for misbehavior. And, entertainingly, the answer to the question “Will Barack Obama’s scandals derail his second-term agenda?” was a question: What agenda?

    The scandals are interlocking and overlapping in ways that drain his authority. Everything he advocates requires Americans to lavish on government something that his administration, and big government generally, undermines: trust.

    Liberalism’s agenda has been constant since long before liberals, having given their name a bad name, stopped calling themselves liberals and resumed calling themselves progressives, which they will call themselves until they finish giving that name a bad name. The agenda always is: Concentrate more power in Washington, more Washington power in the executive branch and more executive power in agencies run by experts. Then trust the experts to be disinterested and prudent with their myriad intrusions into, and minute regulations of, Americans’ lives. Obama’s presidency may yet be, on balance, a net plus for the public good if it shatters Americans’ trust in the regulatory state’s motives.

    Now, regarding Obama’s second-term agenda. His reelection theme — reelect me because I am not Mitt Romney — yielded a meager mandate, and he used tactics that are now draining the legitimacy that an election is supposed to confer.

    One tactic was to misrepresent the Benghazi attack, lest it undermine his narrative about taming terrorism. Does anyonethink the administration’s purpose in manufacturing 12 iterations of the talking points was to make them more accurate?

    Another tactic was using the “federal machinery to screw our political enemies.” The words are from a 1971 memo by the then-White House counsel, John Dean, whose spirit still resides where he worked before going to prison. Congress may contain some Democrats who owed their 2012 election to the IRS’s suppression of conservative political advocacy.

    Obama’s supposed “trifecta” of scandals — Benghazi, the IRSand the seizure of Associated Press phone records — neglects some. A fourth scandal is power being wielded by executive branch officials (at the National Labor Relations Board and the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau) illegally installed in office by presidential recess appointments made when the Senate was not in recess.

    A fifth might be from Health and Human Services Secretary Kathleen Sebelius, who solicited funds from corporations in industries that HHS regulates to replace some that Congress refused to appropriate. The money is to be spent by nonprofit ¬— which does not mean nonpolitical — entities. The funds are to educate Americans about, which might mean (consider the administration’s Benghazi and IRS behaviors) propagandize in favor of, Obamacare and to enroll people in its provisions. The experienced (former governor, former education secretary, 10 years in the Senate) and temperate Lamar Alexander (R-Tenn.)compares this to the Iran-contra scandal, wherein the Reagan administration raised private funds to do what Congress had refused to do — finance the insurgency against Nicaragua’s government.

    Obama’s in¬cred¬ibly shrinking presidency is a reminder that politics is a transactional business, that trust is the currency of the transactions and that the currency has been debased.

    For example:

    Obama says: Trust me, I do not advocate universal preschool simply to swell the ranks of unionized, dues-paying, Democrat-funding teachers. Trust me, I know something not known by the social scientists who say the benefits of such preschool are small and evanescent.

    Obama says: Trust me, the science of global warming is settled. And trust me that, although my plans to combat global warming, whenever the inexplicable 16-year pause of it ends, would vastly expand government’s regulatory powers, as chief executive I guarantee that these powers will be used justly.

    Obama says: Trust me. Although I am head of the executive branch, I am not responsible for the IRS portion of this branch.

    Obama says: Trust me, my desire to overturn a Supreme Court opinion (Citizens United) that expanded First Amendment protection of political speech, and my desire to “seriously consider” amending the First Amendment to expand the government’s power to regulate the quantity, content and timing of political advocacy, should be untainted by what the IRS did to suppress advocacy by my opponents.

    Because Obama’s entire agenda involves enlarging government’s role in allocating wealth and opportunity, the agenda now depends on persuading Americans to trust him, not their lying eyes. In the fourth month of his second term, it is already too late for that.

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    Re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Wow...that was completely off point. Nice string of talking points unrelated to the discussion. I guess deflect and shuffle is your mantra?
    Obama?s tapped-out trust - Washington Post

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