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    Re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

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    I am so sorry, but you just don't have a clue, LBJ put SS on budget to pay for the Vietnam War
    LBJ got a tax pushed through specifically for war spending, unlike your boys from Texas.


    and it has been on budget for decades. Greenspan made the recommendation to Reagan and Reagan implemented it, that doesn't mean there was a surplus immediately because there wasn't SS trust fund money has been used by every President since LBJ put it on budget.
    You can't even keep your story straight, first LBJ put SS in the budget for Vietnam, next he didn't use SS for Vietnam.....FFS! There was a surplus, then there wasn't...then there was...boing boing boing.

    Now what does that have to do about your lies about the Clinton surpluses, the thread topic, or your inability to admit when you are wrong on any subject?
    It is beyond you to understand that the Clinton surpluses by law were used to pay back SS IOU's, that is a public debt, that is where the surpluses went.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    You always go this way, you complain about this Dem POTUS or that one (when it is their budgets that by and large get passed) but when you start to lose the debate, you suddenly shift the goal posts to "Congresses".
    Just trying to educate someone who believes Clinton had a surplus but knows very little about what happened during the Clinton years. This is nothing more than a diversion from the thread topic and to get people to ignore the Obama record and what he has done.

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    Re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    Gimmesometruth;1061831183]LBJ got a tax pushed through specifically for war spending, unlike your boys from Texas.
    LBJ put SS on budget to pay for the Vietnam War, there was no tax implemented. You are something else.


    You can't even keep your story straight, first LBJ put SS in the budget for Vietnam, next he didn't use SS for Vietnam.....FFS! There was a surplus, then there wasn't...then there was...boing boing boing.
    Are you female for you have a comprehension problem and have to get the last word. He used SS funds for the Vietnam war, no tax increases. There was a SS surplus as there were more workers than retirees so that money wasn't missed from the SS fund. It is being missed now.

    It is beyond you to understand that the Clinton surpluses by law were used to pay back SS IOU's, that is a public debt, that is where the surpluses went.
    Guess you always are going to believe that since you obviously don't understand that the debt rose 1.4 trillion dollars under Clinton but again what does that matter today when Obama has added 6.8 trillion in less than 5 years

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    Re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Debt increased 4.9 trillion under Bush in 8 years and 6.8 trillion so far under Obama in less than 5
    And you go through the same old dance...I say Obama has the worst economic downturn since 1929 to deal with (thank you GWB!) causing the debt, you bring up Reagan's self induced recession as a (non) comparison...on and on, the same old dance, a replay over and over.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Just trying to educate someone who believes Clinton had a surplus but knows very little about what happened during the Clinton years. This is nothing more than a diversion from the thread topic and to get people to ignore the Obama record and what he has done.
    Do you really think telling the same lie over and over makes it true Conservative?

    FederalDeficit(1).jpg

    Clinton’s large budget surpluses also owe much to the Social Security tax on payrolls. Social Security taxes now bring in more than the cost of current benefits, and the "Social Security surplus" makes the total deficit or surplus figures look better than they would if Social Security wasn’t counted. But even if we remove Social Security from the equation, there was a surplus of $1.9 billion in fiscal 1999 and $86.4 billion in fiscal 2000. So any way you count it, the federal budget was balanced and the deficit was erased, if only for a while.

    FactCheck.org : The Budget and Deficit Under Clinton

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    Re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    LBJ put SS on budget to pay for the Vietnam War, there was no tax implemented. You are something else.
    Are you female for you have a comprehension problem and have to get the last word. He used SS funds for the Vietnam war, no tax increases. There was a SS surplus as there were more workers than retirees so that money wasn't missed from the SS fund. It is being missed now.
    You are absolutely flat out wrong, and I'll show you again for your failing memory:

    In January 1967 Johnson asked Congress to approve "a sensible course of fiscal and budgetary policy," including a 6 percent surcharge on personal and corporate income taxes. The special levy, designed to help pay for the war, would last a maximum of two years -- less if swift victory allowed U.S. forces to withdraw sooner. The surcharge, which administration experts expected to raise $4.5 billion in its first year, would exempt taxpayers in the lowest tax brackets. And for almost everyone else, Johnson insisted, it would amount to less than $5 extra per month.

    PS...nice bit of misogyny there, that is going in the old sig line..








    Guess you always are going to believe that since you obviously don't understand that the debt rose 1.4 trillion dollars under Clinton but again what does that matter today when Obama has added 6.8 trillion in less than 5 years
    A cynic is a man who knows the price of everything and the value of nothing.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    Under both Bush's, Hillery "what difference does that make" Obama has borrowed and spent more than all the president before him combined. And your proud of Obama's borrowing record, so all the presidents before Obama were failures when it came to borrowing like Obama.
    Another fact-free post.

    Obama borrowed: $6.1 trillion.

    All others combined: $10.6 trillion (and those are nominal figures).

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    Re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    And you go through the same old dance...I say Obama has the worst economic downturn since 1929 to deal with (thank you GWB!) causing the debt, you bring up Reagan's self induced recession as a (non) comparison...on and on, the same old dance, a replay over and over.
    No doubt that is what you say but that is something you cannot prove. Liberals seem to have a problem proving their claims and since none of their predictions have been accurate you don't have a lot of credibility. Obama claimed he saved jobs, name for me the agency that officially calculates saved jobs? Name for me the economic prediction that Obama has made that is accurate yet you buy what you are told about the worst downturn since the great depression..

    Obama the Messiah saving us all from an economic disaster that really didn't exist but an economic misery that many are still facing today.

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    Re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Just trying to educate someone who believes Clinton had a surplus but knows very little about what happened during the Clinton years. This is nothing more than a diversion from the thread topic and to get people to ignore the Obama record and what he has done.
    You brought up Clinton, I didn't. You think he did not have surpluses, but he did. You can't understand how our laws force some surpluses to pay down PUBLIC DEBT, SS IOU's that you supposedly dislike, but can't give the only POTUS in recent memory to do so any credit.

    Your partisanship is disgusting, along with your misogyny.
    Quote Originally Posted by trouble13 View Post
    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    You brought up Clinton, I didn't. You think he did not have surpluses, but he did. You can't understand how our laws force some surpluses to pay down PUBLIC DEBT, SS IOU's that you supposedly dislike, but can't give the only POTUS in recent memory to do so any credit.

    Your partisanship is disgusting, along with your misogyny.
    Your opinion noted. How are the IOU's going to be funded with a 17. trillion dollar debt?

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