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    Re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    You guys are such poor readers, that projection on unemployment was made prior to January of 2009, before anyone anticipated continuing layoffs and an economy that would be much slower in recovery. The point was, of course, that the ARRA did make a fair impact on unemployment no matter what total unemployment actually was.

    And if you guys REALLY want to get into projections on economic performance....I can do that too...

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    Published: January 31, 2001
    Even before the budget office disclosed the new surplus figures, administration officials said that President Bush's plan for a $1.6 trillion tax cut over the next decade and his calls for more spending on the military, health care and education could all be accommodated comfortably without any risk to the government's fiscal health.

    ''We are seeing a government that is awash in surplus money, even with an economy that is softening from where it used to be,'' Ari Fleischer, the White House spokesman, said.

    Speaking after a meeting with Republican leaders at the White House, Mr. Bush said, ''Taxes must fit into a budget, which they will.''

    The budget office's projections suggested that the government would be able to pay off as much of the national debt held by the public as is possible to redeem easily -- all but about $800 billion of the total $3.4 trillion in debt held by the public -- within the next decade.
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    SURPLUS ESTIMATE HITS $5.6 TRILLION - NYTimes.com
    Which just goes to show that you pay no attention to anything that refutes your misinformation as once again you divert from the thread topic and ignore reality. Budgets project deficits but budgets aren't spending bills. Further TARP was a loan not an expense. Still waiting for why repayment wasn't applied to the Bush deficit? Further still waiting for an explanation as to whether or not a discouraged worker which exceeded 1.3 trillion a month in 2010 are unemployed people? Since they aren't counted guess they aren't and guess that 1.3 million is less than 750,000 in the liberal world since 750,000 is the liberal talking point as the 1.3 million discouraged on top of the counted unemployed is ignored.

    By the way do you know what actually makes up the debt? Let me help you, public debt PLUS intergovt. holdings=debt and what we pay debt service on. I guess 250 billion a year isn't a big deal for you since it is someone else's money.

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    Re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

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    Which just goes to show that you pay no attention to anything that refutes your misinformation as once again you divert from the thread topic and ignore reality. Budgets project deficits but budgets aren't spending bills. Further TARP was a loan not an expense. Still waiting for why repayment wasn't applied to the Bush deficit? Further still waiting for an explanation as to whether or not a discouraged worker which exceeded 1.3 trillion a month in 2010 are unemployed people? Since they aren't counted guess they aren't and guess that 1.3 million is less than 750,000 in the liberal world since 750,000 is the liberal talking point as the 1.3 million discouraged on top of the counted unemployed is ignored.

    By the way do you know what actually makes up the debt? Let me help you, public debt PLUS intergovt. holdings=debt and what we pay debt service on. I guess 250 billion a year isn't a big deal for you since it is someone else's money.
    You start by complaining about my supposed tangent, then go into a tirade of totally off topic tangents....all while you avoid the point made, C. Romer was in favor of the ARRA and wanted it to be bigger, a fact you were wrong about that you brought up.

    I totally understand why you keep avoiding your error that started this current discussion.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    You start by complaining about my supposed tangent, then go into a tirade of totally off topic tangents....all while you avoid the point made, C. Romer was in favor of the ARRA and wanted it to be bigger, a fact you were wrong about that you brought up.

    I totally understand why you keep avoiding your error that started this current discussion.
    Does it really matter how much she wanted when the reality is what she projected based upon the stimulus passed? Please name for me any economic prediction made by this President that has been accurate and yet he gets a pass? Prof posted the link to the NY Times article, suggest you read it and stop trying to divert from the facts

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    Re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    per gallup this morning:

    Americans' Support Investigations

    "the irs situation is a serious matter that needs to be investigated:" 74% of americans say yes, 56% strongly agree

    including 62% of democrats, 76% of indies

    "the benghazi situation is a serious matter that needs to be investigated:" 69% say yes, 52% feel that way strongly

    49% of dems, 73% of independents

    house republicans will make sure the majority get some answers

    when it comes to the irs, senate dems will join us

    seeya at the hearings---in august

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    Re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    Bad news for Republicans hoping to spin bull **** into gold. 3 new polls released today show that Obama's approval rating has actually gone UP two points. Americans are seeing right through the GOP gamesmanship:

    The good news
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    Re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    republican gold:

    BOB SCHIEFFER: When the burglars broke into Democratic Headquarters at the Watergate, a lot of us back then found it hard to believe.

    Why would anyone break into a political headquarters? What did they hope to find? Bumper stickers? Yard signs? Nobody is dumb enough to pull a stunt like that.

    But they were!

    I admit I had about the same reaction when I first heard the IRS had gone after the tea party last year. The tea party? Surely no one could be dumb enough to think you could get away with that in an election year.

    But they were! So, welcome to dumb and dumber.

    It did take awhile for the news to get to some quarters. We've heard that the President said he didn't find out about it until last week. Last week!

    Which qualified him for Washington's fastest-growing club: the longer and longer list of officials who suddenly don't know much about a lot of unpleasant things, from Benghazi to the Associated Press investigation.

    At this point, spare me the talking points and the excuses. No matter whether Republicans or Democrats are doing this kind of thing, this stuff is not just wrong, it's really stupid, and it will take more than firing a few temps and low-level bureaucrats to fix it.
    Bob Schieffer: "Welcome To Dumb And Dumber" In Washington | RealClearPolitics

    schieffer is only following cues pointed out to cbs, exclusively, by the administration itself, which authorized a half dozen or so staffers to whisper on background to tiffany's sharyl attkisson (who's about to lose her job, by the way) that we in this woebegone white house are not corrupt, we're only incompetent

    White House Officials on Benghazi: We're the idiots - CBS News

    seeya in committee, comrades---in december

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    Re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    republican gold:



    Bob Schieffer: "Welcome To Dumb And Dumber" In Washington | RealClearPolitics

    schieffer is only following cues pointed out to cbs, exclusively, by the administration itself, which authorized a half dozen or so staffers to whisper on background to tiffany's sharyl attkisson (who's about to lose her job, by the way) that we in this woebegone white house are not corrupt, we're only incompetent

    White House Officials on Benghazi: We're the idiots - CBS News

    seeya in committee, comrades---in december
    From Schieffer:

    "At this point, spare me the talking points and the excuses. No matter whether Republicans or Democrats are doing this kind of thing, this stuff is not just wrong, it's really stupid, and it will take more than firing a few temps and low-level bureaucrats to fix it.

    The president won re-election with a smart political team, but the election is over. Maybe he should look now for people of substance who know about other things who could help him govern." Will President Obama do this?

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    pfeiffer and schieffer, this morning:

    DAN PFEIFFER: The point that our Chief of Staff is making is that this is the Republican playbook here which is try, when they don't have a positive agenda, try to drag Washington into a swamp of partisan fishing expeditions, trumped up hearings and false allegations. We're not going to let that distract us and the President from actually doing the people's work and fighting for the middle class.

    BOB SCHIEFFER: You know, I don’t want to compare this in any way to Watergate. I do not think this is Watergate by any stretch. But you weren't born then I would guess, but I have to tell you that is exactly the approach that the Nixon administration took. They said, “These are all second-rate things. We don't have time for this. We have to devote our time to the people's business.” You’re taking exactly the same line they did.
    more:

    SCHIEFFER: But Mr. Pfeiffer, and I don't mean to be argumentative here, but the President is in charge of the executive branch of the government. It’s my, I'll just make this as an assertion: when the executive branch does things right, there doesn't seem to be any hesitancy of the White House to take credit for that. When Osama bin Laden was killed, the President didn't waste any time getting out there and telling people about it.

    But with all of these things, when these things happen, you seem to send out officials many times who don't even seem to know what has happened. And I use as an example of that Susan Rice who had no connection whatsoever to the events that took place in Benghazi, and yet she was sent out, appeared on this broadcast, and other Sunday broadcasts, five days after it happens, and I'm not here to get in an argument with you about who changed which word in the talking points and all that. The bottom line is what she told the American people that day bore no resemblance to what had happened on the ground in an incident where four Americans were killed.

    But what I'm saying to you is that was just PR. That was just a PR plan to send out somebody who didn't know anything about what had happened. Why did you do that? Why didn't the Secretary of State come and tell us what they knew and if he knew nothing say, “We don't know yet?” Why didn't the White House Chief of Staff come out? I mean I would, and I mean this as no disrespect to you, why are you here today? Why isn't the White House Chief of Staff here to tell us what happened?
    Face The Nation - CBS News

    the white house doesn't want YOU to know, mr schieffer

    it's all irrelevant

    stay tuned

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    Re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Does it really matter how much she wanted
    I guess not to you NOW....since I showed she wanted MORE....whereas you tried to say she was against it...so yeah, you want to disregard the FACT THAT YOU WERE COMPLETELY WRONG AND WON'T ACCEPT IT.



    when the reality is what she projected based upon the stimulus passed?
    This makes no sense, what projections did she make that is under discussion? I posted her REVIEW of the ARRA.

    Please name for me any economic prediction made by this President that has been accurate and yet he gets a pass?
    Ooh! A hunting expedition....for YOU. Look into my eye.


    Prof posted the link to the NY Times article, suggest you read it and stop trying to divert from the facts
    I did read the Krugman article....from JANUARY OF 2009...BEFORE WE KNEW THE EXTENT OF THE AFTERMATH OF THE BUSH RECESSION EFFECTS ON UNEMPLOYMENT.

    Good grief, Ground Hog Day all over again.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Bad news for Republicans hoping to spin bull **** into gold. 3 new polls
    released today show that Obama's approval rating has actually gone UP two points. Americans are seeing right through the GOP gamesmanship:

    The good news
    LOL...A CNN poll referenced by a Yahoo link.

    Nothing subjective and Partisan about that.

    They asked morons who think Benghazi is a Ala Carte

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