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    re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    If you understood the run up to the Iraq war instead of repeating left wing talking points, if you realized that numerous Democrats in 1998 admitted to Saddam Hussein's chemical and biological weapon stock piles maybe you would understand the Conservative position.

    Instead of calling us Hypocrites and using left wing debunked talking points to do it, realize we warned you guys about Obama's true character.

    Maybe if you guys hadn't bought in to the media's Production of " Barrack Obama, Americas first black super president ", and had actually vetted him, we wouldn't be here listening to you mitigate his coruption by repeating tired rehashed talking points.

    Funny your'e ok with Benghazi, still the worst of these three scandals by far.
    Benghazi is the worst scandal? Surely you jest. This isn't even seen as legitimate outside of FauxNews and the right-wing propaganda machine. Why do you think that America isn't buying the feigned outrage?
    Where was all of your outrage when people died in 911? Where was your outrage at the thousands of lives lost as a result of the lies and manipulation of the Bush Administration. Sorry if your outrage rings hollow now, but your silence screams volumes.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    While Nixon Lied, no one died

    But when Obama Fiddled, our ambassador got diddled
    You conveniently left out: When GWB lied....thousands died.
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Reagan was known for compromising with the opposition
    Are you referring to Iran/Contra?
    <font size=5><b>Its been several weeks since the Vegas shooting.  Its it still "Too Early" or can we start having the conversation about finally doing something about these mass shootings???​</b></font>

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    re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    You conveniently left out: When GWB lied....thousands died.
    sadly for the BDS fanatics, Bush believed SH had WMD. so did clinton

    nice try but you failed



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    re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Benghazi is the worst scandal? Surely you jest. This isn't even seen as legitimate outside of FauxNews and the right-wing propaganda machine. Why do you think that America isn't buying the feigned outrage?
    Where was all of your outrage when people died in 911? Where was your outrage at the thousands of lives lost as a result of the lies and manipulation of the Bush Administration. Sorry if your outrage rings hollow now, but your silence screams volumes.
    Posts like this make you irrelevant and show that you are just looking for attention. Your comments have been debunked over and over again yet you continue making the same lies over and over.

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    re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    Quote Originally Posted by Conservative View Post
    Posts like this make you irrelevant and show that you are just looking for attention. Your comments have been debunked over and over again yet you continue making the same lies over and over.
    the undying love for Obama will brook no criticism of dear leader



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    re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Hi Pero - what you say is all fair comment and impossible to dispute. My point was simply that Obama was a known commodity as President - how much worse could Romney possibly be and the potential for being much better was there. People took a leap of faith voting for Obama in 2008 knowing he had no real background that would indicate he'd bring any competence to the position - at least Romney had a record, a history, that could inform the voter.

    It's all irrelevant now, however, but it's interesting to speculate.
    Half the fun of politics is speculation. In 2008 the majority of the people were just plain tired of anything called Republican. Any Tom, Dick or Harry would do and Obama stepped into that void. In 2012, I agree. President Obama was very vulnerable. But Romney wasn't the right candidate. I do not think it even got to people thinking if Romney could do a better job or not. As you know my hobby is studying independent voters, most of them couldn't get over the trust or distrust factor. Romney never introduced himself to the voters, his campaign was, okay I am not Obama, vote for me. He never gave, independent especially a reason to vote for him. Still independents roughly split their vote 50-50, it was the base that won it for Obama. The democratic base, those who associate or identify with the democratic party back in November stood at 32%, the republican base was at 28%. Obama won by 4 points and now you know where that difference came from.

    I love to say it is the independents who determine who wins national elections. But in 2012, it was the base vote that was decisive, not the independents.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    Are you referring to Iran/Contra?
    Lets try it again.

    >" Reagan was known for compromising with the opposition, that's sign of good leadership. Unless it had any thing to do with national defense and winning the Cold War then there was no compromising. America first.

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    re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Half the fun of politics is speculation. In 2008 the majority of the people were just plain tired of anything called Republican. Any Tom, Dick or Harry would do and Obama stepped into that void. In 2012, I agree. President Obama was very vulnerable. But Romney wasn't the right candidate. I do not think it even got to people thinking if Romney could do a better job or not. As you know my hobby is studying independent voters, most of them couldn't get over the trust or distrust factor. Romney never introduced himself to the voters, his campaign was, okay I am not Obama, vote for me. He never gave, independent especially a reason to vote for him. Still independents roughly split their vote 50-50, it was the base that won it for Obama. The democratic base, those who associate or identify with the democratic party back in November stood at 32%, the republican base was at 28%. Obama won by 4 points and now you know where that difference came from.

    I love to say it is the independents who determine who wins national elections. But in 2012, it was the base vote that was decisive, not the independents.
    I agree, and while many continue to deny it, I still feel a lot of that Republican base that didn't turn out were people who refused to vote for a Mormon and since they'd never vote for Obama they stayed home.
    "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." William F. Buckley Jr.

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    re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    if obama still rules certainly everything is going to be destroyed here

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