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    re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    I still think the Bush Administration did far more damage to civil liberties than any WH in my lifetime, but at least they had a reason to with 9/11 and it all had purposes related to that and terrorism. The Obama Administration just feels entitled to do it because Bush did it with no real reason to do so otherwise. I had hoped Obama was serious when he said that all the stuff would have stopped when he took over, but no, Gitmo is still fully-occupied, more drones than ever are zipping around, Afghanistan is still petering right along, the government is still spying on its citizens (though it appears to be for political reasons). IMHO, a true progressive or liberal would have jumped ship from this WH well before now which leads me to believe autocracy for the sake of power is the only principle left in the democratic party. They are not abusing power to protect us--they are doing it for purely political reasons at this point and that is truly pathetic.


    The Bush administration sought and got laws passed that allowed what it did. Obama is doing things that are just plain illegal.

    Wire taps? For Christ sake! C'mon, people. This beyond anything.

    This is why the rest of the Media had a momentary surge of sanity when obama tried to shut down FOX News. Obama is a petty tyrant who thinks that Chicago politics are justified because he is so good.
    I am not of the mind that a man is either of science or of religion. At his best and his worst, man exists in the misty glimmering where the falling angel meets the rising ape. That he chooses a direction from that point defines him as human.

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    re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    Sadly, we'd all be saying the exact things if Romney had been elected. The agenda setters do not tolerate deviance from the plan.
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    More like the Geral Ford of our times although Spiro would have been a hilarious result.


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    Ah, yes, the Spiro Agnew of our times.

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    re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    The Bush administration sought and got laws passed that allowed what it did. Obama is doing things that are just plain illegal.

    Wire taps? For Christ sake! C'mon, people. This beyond anything.

    This is why the rest of the Media had a momentary surge of sanity when obama tried to shut down FOX News. Obama is a petty tyrant who thinks that Chicago politics are justified because he is so good.
    Not to excuse the White House, but let's be clear - we're not talking about wiretaps at all - we're talking about the Justice Department seeking a court order subpeona for access to the telephone records of AP - there is a difference, even if neither appears to be kosher.
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    re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

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    White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up | Fox News

    More examples of Obama incompetence and yet where is the outrage from the left?
    Being a heterosexual male I have no idea what it's like being anally sodomized. I suppose that the left are still in a state of shock of being ###### a second time and giving Obama a second chance and aren't capable yet of showing any outrage.

    Maybe if Obama Care would have been full affect back in November of 2012, 52 % of Americans could have prepared themselves with some Obama green KY Jelly.

    I would recommend that the "left" to read the Constitution but that would likely result with an IRS audit.

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    House of cards are starting to come down. I'm not sure if impeachment is merited at this point (depends on how high up this decision making goes) but certainly there might be some irreparable damage to Obama and his crew. He's chosen abysmal administrators as cabinet secretaries so far. At the end of the day, he's the boss and he's held accountable.

    Frankly, the've already screwed up. All three issues the WH has pointed the finger at someone else. Benghazi=State Dep or CIA's fault. IRS=IRS's fault. AP phone records=DOJ's fault. A good leader owns it, regardless if they're directly involved and regardless of the consequences.

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    re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    They're still in the denial stage at this point - there will be anger to follow once they get over being scammed.
    That'll never happen. They'll go down with the ship. You gotta hand it to them, they are loyal.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That'll never happen. They'll go down with the ship. You gotta hand it to them, they are loyal.
    I'm a Toronto Maple Leafs fan - I know loyal and I know denial - you may be right.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Not to excuse the White House, but let's be clear - we're not talking about wiretaps at all - we're talking about the Justice Department seeking a court order subpeona for access to the telephone records of AP - there is a difference, even if neither appears to be kosher.
    Actually, we are talking about wiretaps.

    AP Wiretapping Scandal: Associated Press Reporter Questions Jay Carney | The Last Refuge
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fishstyx View Post
    House of cards are starting to come down. I'm not sure if impeachment is merited at this point (depends on how high up this decision making goes) but certainly there might be some irreparable damage to Obama and his crew. He's chosen abysmal administrators as cabinet secretaries so far. At the end of the day, he's the boss and he's held accountable.

    Frankly, the've already screwed up. All three issues the WH has pointed the finger at someone else. Benghazi=State Dep or CIA's fault. IRS=IRS's fault. AP phone records=DOJ's fault. A good leader owns it, regardless if they're directly involved and regardless of the consequences.
    What this shows is that liberals including the Obama Administration do not understand leadership at all and try to delegate responsibility to someone else. Anyone in a leadership position knows you cannot delegate responsibility, only authority, but the responsibility always rests with the leader. This is Obama's responsibility regardless of what his minions say.

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