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    re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    Quote Originally Posted by babilfish View Post
    The only people being scammed are you and the rest of your ilk.

    But that's nothing new, is it? A clueless republican base being fed lies and whipped into a frenzy over what really amounts to nothing?
    Absolutely, totally scammed as apparently were Ambassador Steven's family, the AP reporters who had their phone records reviewed, and of course those conservative groups under scrutiny by the IRS. No problem, no there, there, right? Much ado about nothing in the liberal world. Interesting how all these activities were reported by liberals during the Bush term when apparently they were major issues but not so now. Do you really want to give Obama a pass for what you perceived Bush to have done and does that make it right?

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    re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    We are not saving the country by putting the same people back in charge that created and has gotten this country into the mess it is in today. The choice is between which fox, the red fox or the grey fox we let into the hen house. It doesn't matter, the chickens will be in the same peril. The problem is the people listen to the rhetoric, the talking points, the slogans and no one watches how they govern.
    You can't possibly believe that Romney would be less effective in the Presidency than Obama has proven to be? Clearly, Romney's track record of working with Democrats in Massachussetts belies that. And you can't possibly believe that Romney would be less effective in improving the economic environment in the US - that's just not credible. Even if I assume you're correct when you equate Romney and Obama as being two sides of the same coin, just the two areas mentioned above would be strong determinates in a Romney Presidency over a reelection of Obama.
    "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." William F. Buckley Jr.

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    re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    Quote Originally Posted by disneydude View Post
    hmmmmmmmmm.....I dunno. Maybe paying attention to intelligent reports that Al Quaida and Bin Laden were planning to use planes as missles to attack American soil?

    That probably would have been a good place to start.
    You mean like the PDB in December 1998 given to Clinton. What did he do to prevent 9/11 and to make our airports safer? You actually think Bush had the power to make changes 8 months into office coming off the closest election in history? You think the left would have sat back willingly as Bush shutdown the airports with no credible threat? Why didn't Clinton implement policies that Bush did after 9/11?

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    re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    They're hiding this for a reason...someone broke the law.
    There are checks and balances on these things.

    Why did the judge grant the subpeona?

    I would like to see the application for the subpeona.

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    re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    My bad... I wasn't aware that you don't care about lives of people that aren't Ambassadors... like a US Diplomat and these other folks:
    January 22, 2002. Calcutta, India. Gunmen associated with Harkat-ul-Jihad al-Islami attack the U.S. Consulate. Five people are killed.

    June 14, 2002. Karachi, Pakistan. Suicide bomber connected with al Qaeda attacks the U.S. Consulate, killing 12 and injuring 51.

    October 12, 2002. Denpasar, Indonesia. U.S. diplomatic offices bombed as part of a string of "Bali Bombings." No fatalities.

    February 28, 2003. Islamabad, Pakistan. Several gunmen fire upon the U.S. Embassy. Two people are killed.

    May 12, 2003. Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. Armed al Qaeda terrorists storm the diplomatic compound, killing 36 people including nine Americans. The assailants committed suicide by detonating a truck bomb.

    July 30, 2004. Tashkent, Uzbekistan. A suicide bomber from the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan attacks the U.S. Embassy, killing two people.

    December 6, 2004. Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. Al Qaeda terrorists storm the U.S. Consulate and occupy the perimeter wall. Nine people are killed.

    March 2, 2006. Karachi, Pakistan again. Suicide bomber attacks the U.S. Consulate killing four people, including U.S. diplomat David Foy who was directly targeted by the attackers. (I wonder if Lindsey Graham or Fox News would even recognize the name "David Foy." This is the third Karachi terrorist attack in four years on what's considered American soil.)

    September 12, 2006. Damascus, Syria. Four armed gunmen shouting "Allahu akbar" storm the U.S. Embassy using grenades, automatic weapons, a car bomb and a truck bomb. Four people are killed, 13 are wounded.

    January 12, 2007. Athens, Greece. Members of a Greek terrorist group called the Revolutionary Struggle fire a rocket-propelled grenade at the U.S. Embassy. No fatalities.

    March 18, 2008. Sana'a, Yemen. Members of the al-Qaeda-linked Islamic Jihad of Yemen fire a mortar at the U.S. Embassy. The shot misses the embassy, but hits nearby school killing two.

    July 9, 2008. Istanbul, Turkey. Four armed terrorists attack the U.S. Consulate. Six people are killed.

    September 17, 2008. Sana'a, Yemen. Terrorists dressed as military officials attack the U.S. Embassy with an arsenal of weapons including RPGs and detonate two car bombs. Sixteen people are killed, including an American student and her husband (they had been married for three weeks when the attack occurred). This is the second attack on this embassy in seven months.

    Parse it all you want to try and differentiate but your conspiracy hypotheses still won't pan out.
    Did the Bush administration deny security to those people when asked?

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    re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    No one blatantly lied. That is in your head. All you got is them being wrong about the movie instigating the situation and if that is all the GOP sharks have at this point... not to mention why would anyone give a rats ass what caused it... then you guys got nothing but noise.
    Saying something they knew to be false is lying. It is textbook lying.

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    re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    "What? What three ring circus? We're just trying to have a waffle here." All this talk about getting Obama out of office is disturbing. Who wants to be responsible for running the first black president out of office? I know I don't. Besides, think of all the fun we can have for the next three years watching this show.
    Why do you bring up the color of his skin? Should he have some special protection that any other color man would not have?

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    re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    My bad... I wasn't aware that you don't care about lives of people that aren't Ambassadors... like a US Diplomat and these other folks:

    January 22, 2002. Calcutta, India. Gunmen associated with Harkat-ul-Jihad al-Islami attack the U.S. Consulate. Five people are killed.

    June 14, 2002. Karachi, Pakistan. Suicide bomber connected with al Qaeda attacks the U.S. Consulate, killing 12 and injuring 51.

    October 12, 2002. Denpasar, Indonesia. U.S. diplomatic offices bombed as part of a string of "Bali Bombings." No fatalities.

    February 28, 2003. Islamabad, Pakistan. Several gunmen fire upon the U.S. Embassy. Two people are killed.

    May 12, 2003. Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. Armed al Qaeda terrorists storm the diplomatic compound, killing 36 people including nine Americans. The assailants committed suicide by detonating a truck bomb.

    July 30, 2004. Tashkent, Uzbekistan. A suicide bomber from the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan attacks the U.S. Embassy, killing two people.

    December 6, 2004. Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. Al Qaeda terrorists storm the U.S. Consulate and occupy the perimeter wall. Nine people are killed.

    March 2, 2006. Karachi, Pakistan again. Suicide bomber attacks the U.S. Consulate killing four people, including U.S. diplomat David Foy who was directly targeted by the attackers. (I wonder if Lindsey Graham or Fox News would even recognize the name "David Foy." This is the third Karachi terrorist attack in four years on what's considered American soil.)

    September 12, 2006. Damascus, Syria. Four armed gunmen shouting "Allahu akbar" storm the U.S. Embassy using grenades, automatic weapons, a car bomb and a truck bomb. Four people are killed, 13 are wounded.

    January 12, 2007. Athens, Greece. Members of a Greek terrorist group called the Revolutionary Struggle fire a rocket-propelled grenade at the U.S. Embassy. No fatalities.

    March 18, 2008. Sana'a, Yemen. Members of the al-Qaeda-linked Islamic Jihad of Yemen fire a mortar at the U.S. Embassy. The shot misses the embassy, but hits nearby school killing two.

    July 9, 2008. Istanbul, Turkey. Four armed terrorists attack the U.S. Consulate. Six people are killed.

    September 17, 2008. Sana'a, Yemen. Terrorists dressed as military officials attack the U.S. Embassy with an arsenal of weapons including RPGs and detonate two car bombs. Sixteen people are killed, including an American student and her husband (they had been married for three weeks when the attack occurred). This is the second attack on this embassy in seven months.

    Parse it all you want to try and differentiate but your conspiracy hypotheses still won't pan out.
    Most of the incidents you listed took place outside to the Embassy grounds, on the other side of the wall where the U.S. government has no authority.

    Where terrorist were able to enter the Embassy grounds, none were able to actually enter the Embassy building, that's where Marine Security detachments responsibility begins. Marine security detachment are not responsible for Embassy perimeter security.

    All of the incidents you listed, the terrorist were not able to take over the Embassy. Those who were able to penetrate the security wall were killed.

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    re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    Quote Originally Posted by babilfish View Post
    Don't care about the opinions of your imagined liberal co-workers.
    hahaha. You will certainly care at mid term election time when my imagined liberal co-workers stay on the sidelines


    The only people who even care about these "scandals" are the same undereducated, easily duped republicans and libertarians that have been against Obama since day one.
    meanwhile, back in reality my local news even covered these scandals last night. so the low information voters that you typically rely on are even getting informed of these scandals.

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    re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Most of the incidents you listed took place outside to the Embassy grounds, on the other side of the wall where the U.S. government has no authority.

    Where terrorist were able to enter the Embassy grounds, none were able to actually enter the Embassy building, that's where Marine Security detachments responsibility begins. Marine security detachment are not responsible for Embassy perimeter security.

    All of the incidents you listed, the terrorist were not able to take over the Embassy. Those who were able to penetrate the security wall were killed.
    Now let's not confuse an Obama supporter with the "rest of the story" in addition to the fact that NO Americans were killed nor did any claim that they weren't provided the security requested. In addition the Bush Administration didn't blame any of the attacks on any anti Islam video nor was Bush on any fund raising trips so as to not be interrupted by something so insignificant as these kind of attacks.

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