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    re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    No one blatantly lied. That is in your head. All you got is them being wrong about the movie instigating the situation and if that is all the GOP sharks have at this point... not to mention why would anyone give a rats ass what caused it... then you guys got nothing but noise.
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    re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    I still
    think the Bush Administration did far more damage to civil liberties than any WH in my lifetime, but at least they had a reason to with 9/11 and it all had purposes related to that and terrorism. The Obama Administration just feels entitled to do it because Bush did it with no real reason to do so otherwise. I had hoped Obama was serious when he said that all the stuff would have stopped when he took over, but no, Gitmo is still fully-occupied, more drones than ever are zipping around, Afghanistan is still petering right along, the government is still spying on its citizens (though it appears to be for political reasons). IMHO, a true progressive or liberal would have jumped ship from this WH well before now which leads me to believe autocracy for the sake of power is the only principle left in the democratic party. They are not abusing power to protect us--they are doing it for purely political reasons at this point and that is truly pathetic.
    I am not surprised by the abuses, and that it is for political purposes. Everything almost always leads back to politicians protecting the power structure.

    The sad thing is, what was done to the AP wasn't a crime, and it should be.

    When is everybody going to finally realize that the government should get a warrant before wiring taping our phones?

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    re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    Quote Originally Posted by code1211 View Post
    The
    Bush administration sought and got laws passed that allowed what it did. Obama is doing things that are just plain illegal.

    Wire taps? For Christ sake! C'mon, people. This beyond anything.

    This is why the rest of the Media had a momentary surge of sanity when obama tried to shut down FOX News. Obama is a petty tyrant who thinks that Chicago politics are justified because he is so good.
    Bush wire tapped too. The admin listened into many civilian phone calls, and there reports they got to hear some good phone sex too


    No government should be trusted with that much power.

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    re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    Quote Originally Posted by Fishstyx View Post
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    of cards are starting to come down. I'm not sure if impeachment is merited at this point (depends on how high up this decision making goes) but certainly there might be some irreparable damage to Obama and his crew. He's chosen abysmal administrators as cabinet secretaries so far. At the end of the day, he's the boss and he's held accountable.

    Frankly, the've already screwed up. All three issues the WH has pointed the finger at someone else. Benghazi=State Dep or CIA's fault. IRS=IRS's fault. AP phone records=DOJ's fault. A good leader owns it, regardless if they're directly involved and regardless of the consequences.
    Havent seen many presidentual admins, but I wouldn't call this response unprecedented. They all shift the blame. GWB did when no WMDs were found. How many people did he end up during?


    I think it's typical DC.

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    re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    Yes the founding fathers warned you about corrupt and tyrannical governments.

    People who set up a government that didn't allow blacks, women and the poor to vote.
    Nor did the rest of the world. The founding fathers had the foresight to put a Constitution together that would one day overcome the inequities they saw. They were the first to do so.

    Of course, that flies in the face of your hated for the superior country down south.
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    re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    News just in... the General was shot by man on the horse. GOP's main concern... what color was the horse.
    News Just in and that was known before-hand. The Libyans Warned the State Dept 3 days ahead of the attack. That horse came in Riding Black and White.

    Also the Other news Just In.....they knew AQ had morphed into Ansar Al Sharia from Iraq and Yemen.....all the way to the Magreb. That horse pulled a Chariot.

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    re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Four Americans are killed, because of the president's incompetance and you ask, "who gives a ****?".
    For you apparently only deaths that happen while a Dem is president is something to give a **** over.
    Quote Originally Posted by Moderate Right View Post
    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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    re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    Quote Originally Posted by SheWolf View Post
    Havent seen many presidentual admins, but I wouldn't call this response unprecedented. They all shift the blame. GWB did when no WMDs were found. How many people did he end up during?


    I think it's typical DC.
    Except Obama did it intentionally. Bush acted on intelligence that Democrats and allies agreed with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I'm a
    Bushbot? You got a link where I defended warrantless wiretapping?

    I don't think investigators should have to get a warrant to listen in on a call coming out of Iran. That part's true. I've never defended warrantless wiretapping of domestic phone calls.
    What if it's a journalist working in Iran?

    Your point is weak anyway. Why Iran only? That's not the.way laws are written or work. Iran only people, not Iraq, not Pakistan were Osama was hiding, Iran only.

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    re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    For you apparently only deaths that happen while a Dem is president is something to give a **** over.
    Wow, your president is proving to be Tony Soprano, and you still don't care.

    Your party agreed with Bush, then changed their tune like the spineless wimps they are. Benghazi is just typical of their clueless incompetence.

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