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    re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    To sum it up, no-nothings voted in a no-nothing.
    Actually back last year as far as independents went, they had a choice between a candidate they had lost faith in, like fixing the economy and jobs. The other candidate they didn't trust. So the independent voter had to chose between someone they had no faith in or someone they didn't trust. This group of voters which made up 40% of the electorate pretty evenly split their vote 50-50. If you guys had given the voters a better candidate they could trust, then you wouldn't have to worry about as you put it, a know nothing.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    What a :facepalm: comment. Your conspiracy mindedness are already setting up scenarios of "OBAMA'S COMING TO TAKE U AND UR CHILDREN!!!!!111111!!!!"

    No matter how loud you scream you are still just one person and screaming doesn't turn hot air into truth.
    Hey ***Clown, I never said that I thought Obama was going to round us up, just that you'd excuse it because your such a drone.

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    re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonzai View Post
    I thought it was kind of weird, MSNBC wheeling out Carl Bernstein this morning, as if the WH was standing between the Left and it's "dream"......................
    Woodward and Bernstein will continue to be trotted around, even perhaps in caskets one day soon, anytime there's a sniff of presidential illegality or intrigue.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Firstly, are you suggesting that this type of activity mysteriously stopped on September 2008 or just as President Obama was taking office?

    Secondly, the vast majority of people killed in the events you note were not American.

    Finally, if you don't understand the significance of an American Ambassador being murdered, the first one in 40 years, since the Carter Presidency, then nothing I say is going to help you lift the blindfold.
    Like I said, I had no idea that you only value the lives of Ambassadors well and above anyone else. Including the Americans killed in that list and non American's that died because of attacks targetting Americans. Knowing htis about you is rather enlightening.
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    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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    re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Firstly, are you suggesting that this type of activity mysteriously stopped on September 2008 or just as President Obama was taking office?

    Secondly, the vast majority of people killed in the events you note were not American.

    Finally, if you don't understand the significance of an American Ambassador being murdered, the first one in 40 years, since the Carter Presidency, then nothing I say is going to help you lift the blindfold.
    If I am not mistaken NOT ONE AMERICAN was killed in any of those attacks but that fact escapes Obama supporters

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    re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    My bad... I wasn't aware that you don't care about lives of people that aren't Ambassadors... like a US Diplomat and these other folks:

    January 22, 2002. Calcutta, India. Gunmen associated with Harkat-ul-Jihad al-Islami attack the U.S. Consulate. Five people are killed.

    June 14, 2002. Karachi, Pakistan. Suicide bomber connected with al Qaeda attacks the U.S. Consulate, killing 12 and injuring 51.

    October 12, 2002. Denpasar, Indonesia. U.S. diplomatic offices bombed as part of a string of "Bali Bombings." No fatalities.

    February 28, 2003. Islamabad, Pakistan. Several gunmen fire upon the U.S. Embassy. Two people are killed.

    May 12, 2003. Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. Armed al Qaeda terrorists storm the diplomatic compound, killing 36 people including nine Americans. The assailants committed suicide by detonating a truck bomb.

    July 30, 2004. Tashkent, Uzbekistan. A suicide bomber from the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan attacks the U.S. Embassy, killing two people.

    December 6, 2004. Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. Al Qaeda terrorists storm the U.S. Consulate and occupy the perimeter wall. Nine people are killed.

    March 2, 2006. Karachi, Pakistan again. Suicide bomber attacks the U.S. Consulate killing four people, including U.S. diplomat David Foy who was directly targeted by the attackers. (I wonder if Lindsey Graham or Fox News would even recognize the name "David Foy." This is the third Karachi terrorist attack in four years on what's considered American soil.)

    September 12, 2006. Damascus, Syria. Four armed gunmen shouting "Allahu akbar" storm the U.S. Embassy using grenades, automatic weapons, a car bomb and a truck bomb. Four people are killed, 13 are wounded.

    January 12, 2007. Athens, Greece. Members of a Greek terrorist group called the Revolutionary Struggle fire a rocket-propelled grenade at the U.S. Embassy. No fatalities.

    March 18, 2008. Sana'a, Yemen. Members of the al-Qaeda-linked Islamic Jihad of Yemen fire a mortar at the U.S. Embassy. The shot misses the embassy, but hits nearby school killing two.

    July 9, 2008. Istanbul, Turkey. Four armed terrorists attack the U.S. Consulate. Six people are killed.

    September 17, 2008. Sana'a, Yemen. Terrorists dressed as military officials attack the U.S. Embassy with an arsenal of weapons including RPGs and detonate two car bombs. Sixteen people are killed, including an American student and her husband (they had been married for three weeks when the attack occurred). This is the second attack on this embassy in seven months.

    Parse it all you want to try and differentiate but your conspiracy hypotheses still won't pan out.

    Lets see.....how about if it pans out with this one.

    For Susan Rice, Benghazi Was Kenya 1998 Deja Vu

    Parallels: A mission was attacked after warnings, Americans were killed after security requests were denied, and a diplomat went on TV to explain it all our current U.N. ambassador, after embassy bombings in 1998.

    'What troubles me so much is the Benghazi attack in many ways echoes the attacks on both embassies in 1998, when Susan Rice was head of the African region for our State Department," Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, said Wednesday after two hours with our U.N. ambassador. "In both cases, the ambassador begged for additional security."

    In the spring of 1998, Prudence Bushnell, the U.S. ambassador to Kenya, sent an emotional letter to Secretary of State Madeleine Albright begging for a more secure embassy in the face of mounting terrorist threats and a warning that she was the target of an assassination plot.

    The State Department had repeatedly denied her request, citing a lack of money. But that kind of response, she wrote Albright, was "endangering the lives of embassy personnel."

    A matter of months later, on Aug. 7, 1998, the American embassies in Tanzania and Kenya were simultaneously attacked with car bombs. In Kenya, 12 American diplomats and more than 200 Africans were killed.

    As in Benghazi, requests for more security were denied, warnings were issued, prior incidents were ignored and Susan Rice went on TV to explain it all.

    Within 24 hours, Rice, then assistant secretary of state for African affairs, went on PBS as spokesperson for the administration just as she was regarding Benghazi when she parroted the administration's false narrative on five Sunday talk shows on Sept. 16, 2012, that Benghazi was caused by a flash mob enraged by an Internet video. Then, as now, she worked for a Clinton.

    Eerie similarities between Benghazi and Nairobi are many. A review of the attacks showed the CIA repeatedly told State Department officials in Washington and in the Kenya embassy that there was an active terrorist cell in Kenya connected to Osama bin Laden, who masterminded the attack.

    Read More At Investor's Business Daily: For Susan Rice, Benghazi Was Kenya 1998 Deja Vu; Tanzania Too - Investors.com
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    Do you think Bush's add up to the 212 killed with these and the 4000 wounded? Blackhawk Down Darfur and Somalia sound familiar.

    How's that security argument that the Democrats said we fixed so that it would never happen again?

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    re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Yank View Post
    Hey ***Clown, I never said that I thought Obama was going to round us up, just that you'd support it because your such a drone.
    Temper, temper.
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    The sad fact is that having a pedophile win is better than having a Democrat in office. I'm all for a solution where a Republican gets in that isn't Moore.

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    re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Actually back last year as far as independents went, they had a choice between a candidate they had lost faith in, like fixing the economy and jobs. The other candidate they didn't trust. So the independent voter had to chose between someone they had no faith in or someone they didn't trust. This group of voters which made up 40% of the electorate pretty evenly split their vote 50-50. If you guys had given the voters a better candidate they could trust, then you wouldn't have to worry about as you put it, a know nothing.
    I'm not buying it Pero, with respect. People had four years to see what a disaster Obama is/was as President and you had a competent alternative and perhaps you let the media convince you that he wasn't trustworthy but nobody who actually knew the man could claim not to trust him. The majority of voters made the wrong choice and you're going to have to live with it.
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    re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    What happened in Benghazi was a tragedy. As were these 13 Benghazi's that happened on Bush's watch that you don't seem to give a damn about. And the "coverup" this far is in your head and being fed hyperbolistic biscuits by Fox News.



    If you read any of my post on the topic you'd have read that I don't think it was right and it shouldn't be done. And I also find the fabricated outrage that is also extremely selective in that they ingore how under the Bush administration they targetted the NAACP and Greenpeace based simply on Republican requests to do so.



    There is hardly nothing known about this so while I have a problem with such spying, I'm not ready to fly off the handle just because Fox says so. I'll logically wait for more info... info that isn't spun into a tizzy by partisans and their nonsense because thus far, you guys are batting a thousand.



    Lot's of stuff but the things that bother me about him you'd not have a problem with. You just look for people to agree to hate Obama... unlike you, I look at policies I like and dislike. Obama stands for some things I like, some things I dislike while the GOP pretty much stands for nothing other than opposing whatever comes out of Obama's mouth. They stand for nothing unless it's a taxbreaks for Exxon.



    You talking about double standards of others is probably the largest irony this board has ever seen.

    I will summarize your post so the forum participants wont have to waste their time reading them. I can do it in 5 words Well Bush Did It Also

    last week i was pulled for speeding and I said to the cop" well Bush was speeding 6 years ago" and you know he still gave me a ticket . How dare him

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    re: White House in damage control mode as potential scandals pile up [W:378]

    the AP's indignation appears to be coming from...
    you don't know where the ap's indignation is coming from?

    unbelievable

    The media coalition, headed by the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press and including major U.S. newspapers and television networks, responded that its members were “stunned” to learn of the Justice Department’s action.

    “In the thirty years since the Department issued guidelines governing its subpoena practice as it relates to phone records from journalists, none of us can remember an instance where such an overreaching dragnet for newsgathering materials was deployed by the Department, particularly without notice to the affected reporters or an opportunity to seek judicial review,” the letter said. It charged that Justice “appears to have ignored or brushed aside almost every aspect” of its own guidelines governing subpoenas of the news media for testimony and evidence.

    The signatories also called on the department to “explain how government lawyers overreached so egregiously in this matter” and describe what it would do “to mitigate the impact of these actions.” And it said Justice “should announce whether it has served any other pending news media-related subpoenas that have not yet been disclosed.”
    http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...1f9_story.html

    on the topic of white house damage control, it is notable that elijah cummings of maryland, ranking dem on issa's oversight, came out today and declared he sees a CRIME

    Elijah Cummings: Laws Probably Broken

    nbc opened last nite:

    BRIAN WILLIAMS: "As a lot of American adults not so fondly remember, the last time the government was found looking into the phone calls of reporters and using the IRS for political purposes, it was the Nixon era, and while times have changed and circumstances are different that subject came up at the Obama White House today as the administration now scrambles on several fronts." (NBC Nightly News, May 14, 2013)
    "NBC Nightly News" Likens Obama Scandals To Nixon Era | RealClearPolitics

    carney's getting killed

    JESSICA YELLIN, CNN: Jay, you say check our history, rabid commentary. But you have to understand and hear how it sounds like the administration might be hiding something.

    So can we take these one at the time. On the IRS on friday, they gave one version of the story that's changed several times since then. So can you say plainly, does the president believe they are being truthful and does he think that the leadership there needs to change?

    JAY CARNEY, WHITE HOUSE: Well, I don't understand how that tracks with your first sentence about assertion here. We have seen the reports, as the president said. And if the reports are true, he would consider them outrageous.
    Reporter To Carney: "Sounds Like The Administration Might Be Hiding Something" | RealClearPolitics

    REPORTER: President Obama is being compared to President Nixon. How does he feel about that?

    JAY CARNEY, WHITE HOUSE: Again, I don't have a reaction from President Obama. I can tell you people who make those kind of comparisons need to check their history. Because, you know, what we have here with one issue, in Benghazi, is so clearly, as we're learning more and more a political sideshow, a deliberate effort to politicize a tragedy.

    The president feels very strongly about that, you heard him address that yesterday. On these other issues, these are things that we are finding out about and we need to wait appropriate for independent action to be completed before he can in any way take action on comment specifically on it. I think it is a reflection of the sort of rapid politicalization of everything that you have that kind of commentary. Everything becomes, you know, a huge political issue. (White House Briefing, May 14, 2013)
    Reporter To Carney: How Does Obama Feel Being Compared To Nixon? | RealClearPolitics

    JAY CARNEY: We have not seen the report. We have not independently collected information about what transpired. We need the independent inspector general’s report to be released before we can make judgments. You know, one person’s view of what actions were taken or what that individual did is not enough for us to say something concretely happened that was inappropriate.
    plouffe yesterday downplayed the irs and its enemies list

    Impt to note GOP groups flourished last 2 elections, overwhelming Ds. And they will use this to raise more $.
    Did David Plouffe Justify IRS Targeting Conservatives? - NationalJournal.com

    politico's coming out tonite with a story, washington dc turns against obama

    it's sposed to be big...

    stay tuned
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