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    Re: Russia To Expel U.S. Diplomat

    Quote Originally Posted by DDD View Post
    Thanks now I read it. But I do not see what the laughing matter is?

    Your spy was caught! Why can't you send a decent capable spy over there to reach people all the way to the top as you should be?


    Check with John O. Brennan, the Director of the CIA. I'm sure that he will have a good answer for you.

    Me, I only know what I read and hear on the news.

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    Re: Russia To Expel U.S. Diplomat

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Of course not. You don't even need antagonism to spy on each other. Israel spies on the United States, and we spy on them.


    The USA spies on everyone.

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    Re: Russia To Expel U.S. Diplomat

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    The USA spies on everyone.
    Especially conservatives and those Americans who are informed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Especially conservatives and those Americans who are informed.


    I haven't done any real research, so I don't know this for a fact, but my guess is that the USA might employ almost as many spies as the rest of the world combined.

    We don't know the real numbers because they're another secret.

    What do you think?

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    Re: Russia To Expel U.S. Diplomat

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Of course not. You don't even need antagonism to spy on each other. Israel spies on the United States, and we spy on them.
    That I agree. There should be no antagonism even when the spies are caught even. See here we caught 3 Deutch spies in Dardania the other day handed them over to Deutchland by plane. No biggie:

    Spy Scandal: German Intelligence Officers Detained in Kosovo - SPIEGEL ONLINE
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    Re: Russia To Expel U.S. Diplomat

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Especially conservatives and those Americans who are informed.
    Sounds mutually exclusive, like military intelligence... Perhaps the wording should be 'Especially conservatives OR those Americans who are informed.'

    I don't think the ability of our spies rests to much on whatever party 'holds the most power right now'. Seems we have gone from human intelligence gatherers to electronic spying. From high over head to monitoring the interwebz we seem to have invested in from a distance spying over the traditional recruiting dissident natives overseas. Israel was pretty good at turning US Citizens in government, Federal law enforcement and our military to spy for them. Perhaps we should outsource our spies on the ground to them.

    Globalization of the old school cloak and dagger trade....

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    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Sounds mutually exclusive, like military intelligence... Perhaps the wording should be 'Especially conservatives OR those Americans who are informed.'

    I don't think the ability of our spies rests to much on whatever party 'holds the most power right now'. Seems we have gone from human intelligence gatherers to electronic spying. From high over head to monitoring the interwebz we seem to have invested in from a distance spying over the traditional recruiting dissident natives overseas. Israel was pretty good at turning US Citizens in government, Federal law enforcement and our military to spy for them. Perhaps we should outsource our spies on the ground to them.

    Globalization of the old school cloak and dagger trade....


    Electronic spying has been going on since the telegraph, telephone, and radio were invented.

    The NSA is by far the largest agency doing this for the USA, but it's not the only player.

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    Re: Russia To Expel U.S. Diplomat

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    I haven't done any real research, so I don't know this for a fact, but my guess is that the USA might employ almost as many spies as the rest of the world combined.

    We don't know the real numbers because they're another secret.

    What do you think?
    My phone number is blocked at the Obama White House.

    I must be on Obama's "enemy list."

    May explain why two IRS audits in two years.

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    Re: Russia To Expel U.S. Diplomat

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    My phone number is blocked at the Obama White House.

    I must be on Obama's "enemy list."

    May explain why two IRS audits in two years.


    Sounds like maybe you made the list.

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    Re: Russia To Expel U.S. Diplomat

    He might be the next body guard to the next ambassador to Libya? I think they may want to have one of those now?


    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    #1 the guy is not a diplomat.

    Russia's Federal Security Service, the FSB, caught this guy, Ryan C. Fogle, who is posted as the third secretary in the political section at the USA's Moscow Embassy in the act. When caught, he had a load of 500 notes and spy-stuff with him.

    Fogle's mama didn't help him out at all. When reached by phone she said, "I have nothing to say." IOW: You've got him dead to rights, throw the book at him.

    Read more here: Russia to Expel U.S. Diplomat - WSJ.com

    I wonder what the CIA will have this fine dude doing next?

    Any ideas?




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