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    IRS officials in Washington were involved in targeting of conservative groups

    IRS officials in Washington were involved in targeting of conservative groups - The Washington Post

    Internal Revenue Service officials in Washington and at least two other offices were involved with investigating conservative groups seeking tax-exempt status, making clear that the effort reached well beyond the branch in Cincinnati that was initially blamed, according to documents obtained by The Washington Post.IRS officials at the agency’s Washington headquarters sent queries to conservative groups asking about their donors and other aspects of their operations, while officials in the El Monte and Laguna Niguel offices in California sent similar questionnaires to tea-party-affiliated groups, the documents show.
    “For the IRS to say it was some low-level group in Cincinnati is simply false,” said Cleta Mitchell, a partner in the law firm Foley & Lardner who sought to communicate with IRS headquarters about the delay in granting tax-exempt status to True the Vote.
    Moreover, details of the IRS’s efforts to target conservative groups reached the highest levels of the agency in May 2012, far earlier than has been disclosed, according to Republican congressional aides briefed by the IRS and the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration ­(TIGTA) on the details of their reviews.
    In a June 3, 2011, letter to the IRS, Mitchell questioned the agency’s motivations for delaying recognition of one of her clients who had filed nearly two years earlier, writing, “Is the [group’s] opposition to Obamacare and the takeover of America’s healthcare system by the government the reason that this application has been held up and not approved?”
    Catherine Engelbrecht, president of the Houston-based True the Vote, first filed for tax-exempt status in July 2010. At one point, Engelbrecht — who is still awaiting a determination from the IRS regarding her voting rights organization and a separate tea party group, King Street Patriots — said an IRS employee informed her: “I’m just doing what Washington is telling me to do. I’m just asking what they want me to ask.”
    Its just some dudes in Cincy. The IRS wasnt doing this! Suuuure they weren't. There is blood in the water on this one, expect the leaks to become a lot larger and more detailed as this goes on.

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    Re: IRS officials in Washington were involved in targeting of conservative groups

    Quote Originally Posted by OpportunityCost View Post
    IRS officials in Washington were involved in targeting of conservative groups - The Washington Post

    Its just some dudes in Cincy. The IRS wasnt doing this! Suuuure they weren't. There is blood in the water on this one, expect the leaks to become a lot larger and more detailed as this goes on.
    The steady drip drip as become a torrential downpour the dam isn't going to hold up much longer and when it burst (which it will) it will sweep Obama the tyrant and his corrupt administration away with it

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    Re: IRS officials in Washington were involved in targeting of conservative groups

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    IRS officials in Washington were involved in targeting of conservative groups - The Washington Post


    Its just some dudes in Cincy. The IRS wasnt doing this! Suuuure they weren't. There is blood in the water on this one, expect the leaks to become a lot larger and more detailed as this goes on.

    It seems to me, one of the objectives of liberal/progressive politics is to build the power of government agencies as a means of overseeing the operation of the country. We now have new government agencies with astounding power, joining other agencies who already wield powers beyond the reach of the citizens.

    When the best the Exectutive Branch can muster is a feigned bit of indignation over the actions of one of the most powerful agencies in the United States, there should be little doubt where this country is being led.

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    Re: IRS officials in Washington were involved in targeting of conservative groups

    A lot of conservatives have long insisted that racial profiling is just fine, and now they're all flipping their **** when they've become the target of profiling. It sure is amusing to watch!

    And before anyone tries to label me a hypocrite, no, I am definitely not defending these actions by the IRS. My other posts on the subject demonstrate this.
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    Re: IRS officials in Washington were involved in targeting of conservative groups

    Quote Originally Posted by ocean515 View Post
    It seems to me, one of the objectives of liberal/progressive politics is to build the power of government agencies as a means of overseeing the operation of the country. We now have new government agencies with astounding power, joining other agencies who already wield powers beyond the reach of the citizens.
    I wouldn't say that's just a left wing thing. Republicans have done plenty to make government agencies with sweeping powers -- does the Department of Homeland Security ring a bell? Not only was that a brand new cabinet post, it also nationalized an industry.

    I'm really disturbed by these allegations. The problem that I see is this -- you sweep away Obama and replace him with what? The Republican party is as much a part of this as the Democratic party is, so swapping out donkeys for elephants does NOTHING to change the dynamic. There was a sea change movement coming, but the TP and OWS never realized that they were protesting the same thing, and the two parties have each used the other to further divide Americans and conquer


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    Re: IRS officials in Washington were involved in targeting of conservative groups

    According to Steve Miller, Acting Commisioner:

    "We sought to centralize work in this area in 2010 because our office of Exempt Organizations observed a sharp increase in the number of section 501(c)(3) and 501(c)(4) applications coming from groups potentially engaged in political campaign intervention," Miller wrote. "Between 2010 and 2012, the number of applications for 501(c)(4) status more than doubled, from 1,591 to 3,398.
    Acting IRS Commissioner Steven Miller: We should have done 'better' | wtsp.com

    Seems like a rational argument to make. More so than, it's all Obama's fault!

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    Its just some dudes in Cincy. The IRS wasnt doing this! Suuuure they weren't. There is blood in the water on this one, expect the leaks to become a lot larger and more detailed as this goes on.
    Hail to the King baby!

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    Re: IRS officials in Washington were involved in targeting of conservative groups

    Quote Originally Posted by Chaddelamancha View Post
    According to Steve Miller, Acting Commisioner:



    Acting IRS Commissioner Steven Miller: We should have done 'better' | wtsp.com

    Seems like a rational argument to make. More so than, it's all Obama's fault!
    Certainly it makes the case for better financial disclosure laws.

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    Re: IRS officials in Washington were involved in targeting of conservative groups

    We are in uncharted territory with the level of abuse and corruption committed by this government. Benghazi, the Gustapo (aka the IRS), HHS, seizing AP's phone records, etc... it goes on and on. And this is just what we know about so far. It doesn't seem like impeachment is enough. Can they do a mass impeachment? That might work.

    Oh, wait, I forgot. All these abuses, the entire way that they run the government, but guess what? Obama? Knows nothing about it. He just found out. Holder? He knows nothing. Hillary? Nope, didn't know a thing about what's going on.

    Limited government, remember that? That is why they are attacking the Constitution. It goes against all they stand for.

    Boy, if you support these people, you really have to check your brain at the door to believe them.

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    Re: IRS officials in Washington were involved in targeting of conservative groups

    Apparently you didn't watch the Republican nomination close enough. With the exception of Ron Paul, those lackeys were willing to shred the constitution in the name of terrorism.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    We are in uncharted territory with the level of abuse and corruption committed by this government. Benghazi, the Gustapo (aka the IRS), HHS, seizing AP's phone records, etc... it goes on and on. And this is just what we know about so far. It doesn't seem like impeachment is enough. Can they do a mass impeachment? That might work.

    Oh, wait, I forgot. All these abuses, the entire way that they run the government, but guess what? Obama? Knows nothing about it. He just found out. Holder? He knows nothing. Hillary? Nope, didn't know a thing about what's going on.

    Limited government, remember that? That is why they are attacking the Constitution. It goes against all they stand for.

    Boy, if you support these people, you really have to check your brain at the door to believe them.
    Hail to the King baby!

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    Re: IRS officials in Washington were involved in targeting of conservative groups

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    I wouldn't say that's just a left wing thing. Republicans have done plenty to make government agencies with sweeping powers -- does the Department of Homeland Security ring a bell? Not only was that a brand new cabinet post, it also nationalized an industry.

    I'm really disturbed by these allegations. The problem that I see is this -- you sweep away Obama and replace him with what? The Republican party is as much a part of this as the Democratic party is, so swapping out donkeys for elephants does NOTHING to change the dynamic. There was a sea change movement coming, but the TP and OWS never realized that they were protesting the same thing, and the two parties have each used the other to further divide Americans and conquer
    DHS consolidated powers already in place within other agencies. The Patriot Act pushed the envelope. What I'm refering to are new agencies like the Consumer Finance Protection Bureau, or the government take over of student loans. I'm refering to the massive expansion of the IRS through Obamacare. I'm refering to dramatic expansion of EPA's reach, with their Environmentl Justice offensive looming just around the corner. This list goes on and on. Ever heard of the Bureau of Health Information Technology? Look up their budget.

    The stunning revelation in this IRS matter is the apparent partisanship, and the coverup prior to the election last November.

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