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    Re: IRS officials in Washington were involved in targeting of conservative groups

    My substance was the link to Steve Miller's response. And comparing this to a lone gunman just shows an inability to look at this issue from a partisan standpoint. I find it hard to distinguish the scandals tied to Obama and the ones tied to members of the GOP. They are all a bunch of lying, thieving bastards looking out for their own.

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Well, you seem to completely miss the point that with any number of scandals, or potential scandals that come out, Obama and crew no nothing about any of it. Get it? Who the hell is running the place if they don't know anything, which I don't believe. Do you really think that it is even possible that Holder knew nothing about what they did to the AP?

    Steve Miller says "it wasn't the best way to handle" that? LOL, are you freakin' kidding??? That's like Jared Laudner saying what he did wasn't the best way to handle his situation.

    Oh, and your substance was where?
    Hail to the King baby!

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    Re: IRS officials in Washington were involved in targeting of conservative groups

    The Obama Administration is clearly using Government Agencies as billyclubs to harass and intimidate Americans

    The Left will obviously circle the wagons to protect and coddle their Messiah, but that's only going to erode what little credibility they have left. They made the mistake of putting all their eggs in the Obama basket and will go down with this sinking ship. Hopefully mocked and shunned into obscurity for defending the rampant Fascism emanating from the White House under this corrupt lying "President"

    Keep defending this thuggery Progs

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    Re: IRS officials in Washington were involved in targeting of conservative groups

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Such groups existed before the citizens united decision, there have been a lot more of them since that decision. Frankly i think The IRS made a stupid decision in seeing a connection of tea party and right wing groups and their tax status. They should focused on the monetary issues, not what political group they supported.
    Exactly. It they focused on the money, people could still consider the IRS to be the fire breathing dragon that it is. With the obvious bias and coverup, it's taken on a whole level of distrust.

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    Re: IRS officials in Washington were involved in targeting of conservative groups

    Quote Originally Posted by Anthony60 View Post
    Ah, misdirection. One of the cornerstones of the left. Oh, they were willing to shred the Constitution at the "nomination". Okay, well, I guess all is excused. IRS, as you were. LOL.

    Got to do better than that.
    It doesn't excuse the IRS, but I think it's pretty obvious that Romney was just as much a big government guy as Obama. So were both Bushes, Clinton, Reagan....


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    Re: IRS officials in Washington were involved in targeting of conservative groups

    If anyone read the source material...there are tea party organizations that applied for tax exempt status in 2010 before the election that still havent been granted. Problem 1.

    There are organizations that are already tax exempt being asked for membership lists, donation lists--including names and addresses, volunteer lists, meeting roll calls. Problem 2.

    Government officials are stonewalling this and every time a new piece of information comes out, it went higher up the chain of command. Problem 3.

    Chicago politicians and their crooked power wielding ways should never coincide with the amount of power the executive branch can wield. People should be getting fired from top to bottom over this. Yet, as of now, no one has. What does that lead you to infer?

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    Re: IRS officials in Washington were involved in targeting of conservative groups

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Good afternoon, ocean515.

    Maybe if the government stopped all the "let's concentrate on tightening the screws on the American people" crap, and instead started doing the job they were elected to do, we would not be discussing their failures in Benghazi! That showed me more about what they really think of us than anything else they could have done! : We're apparently expendable...that is until they need us to provide more tax money for them to spend on things like the latest solar company who filed bankruptcy shortly after they received millions of our tax dollars! Odd how our hard-earned money goes into a bottomless pit never to be seen again, with nothing to show for it.. you'd think they would at least give us each a solar panel or a solar wind-chime, or something for our contribution... :
    Hi Polgara

    Oh I think "they" are giving us something alright. It's just that it used to involve a cigarette once it was over.

    It's been my experience that when one tries to manipulate and obfuscate, the end result is always a disaster.

    It seems to me, we're seeing lots of disasters, which would indicate manipulation and obfuscation have been at play.

    How about listening to some business owners, and focusing on jobs, rather than a legacy, and an attempt to transform the nation into something it was never meant to be?

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    Re: IRS officials in Washington were involved in targeting of conservative groups

    IRS Office That Targeted Tea Party Also Disclosed Confidential Docs From Conservative Groups

    IRS Office That Targeted Tea Party Also Disclosed Confidential Docs From Conservative Groups - ProPublica

    The same IRS office that deliberately targeted conservative groups applying for tax-exempt status in the run-up to the 2012 election released nine pending confidential applications of conservative groups to ProPublica late last year.

    The IRS did not respond to requests Monday following up about that release, and whether it had determined how the applications were sent to ProPublica.

    In response to a request for the applications for 67 different nonprofits last November, the Cincinnati office of the IRS sent ProPublica applications or documentation for 31 groups. Nine of those applications had not yet been approved—meaning they were not supposed to be made public. (We made six of those public, after redacting their financial information, deeming that they were newsworthy.)

    On Friday, Lois Lerner, the head of the division on tax-exempt organizations, apologized to Tea Party and other conservative groups because the IRS’ Cincinnati office had unfairly targeted them. Tea Party groups had complained in early 2012 that they were being sent overly intrusive questionnaires in response to their applications
    After receiving the unapproved applications, ProPublica tried to determine why they had been sent. In emails, IRS spokespeople said ProPublica shouldn’t have received them.

    “It has come to our attention that you are in receipt of application materials of organizations that have not been recognized by the IRS as tax-exempt,” wrote one spokeswoman, Michelle Eldridge. She cited a law saying that publishing unauthorized returns or return information was a felony punishable by a fine of up to $5,000 and imprisonment of up to five years, or both.

    In response, ProPublica’s then-general manager and now president, Richard Tofel, said, "ProPublica believes that the information we are publishing is not barred by the statute cited by the IRS, and it is clear to us that there is a strong First Amendment interest in its publication.”

    ProPublica also redacted parts of the application to omit financial information.
    So...the IRS sent documents on unapproved files breaching privacy rights for some groups as well. Im sorry doesnt cut it. Start canning the people---either they are incompetent and shuldnt be trusted with private information or they did it maliciously and shouldnt be trusted with private information. Either way---they should be gone.

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    Re: IRS officials in Washington were involved in targeting of conservative groups

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    It doesn't excuse the IRS, but I think it's pretty obvious that Romney was just as much a big government guy as Obama. So were both Bushes, Clinton, Reagan....
    He may well have been, certainly no conservative. and not really relevant to the current scandals.
    I doubt that anyone is as much a big government guy as Obama. But I think Romney's integrety level was well above Obama's.

    And to just routinely claim that they know nothing about everything that happens is an insult to all of us, left, right, and middle. The buck sure does not make any stops at this Oval Office.

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    Re: IRS officials in Washington were involved in targeting of conservative groups

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    And a lot of liberals have long insisted broad group profiling is inherently wrong and shouldn't be done, and are now flipping their **** at the audacity of people making noise about the IRS targeting political groups of a particular ideology and not saying more than a passing "ho hum that's bad" about the profiling going on (IF they even give that much).

    Funny how you hypocritically respond to call out hypocrites.
    Did you somehow get the idea that I was defending the IRS' actions? I've called them inexcusable, unethical, probably illegal, predicted that someone high up in the IRS would probably be fired... do I need to burn an effigy or something before you're satisfied there, chief? Call for a good ol' fashioned hanging maybe? I know, let's waterboard... everyone. All the IRS agents.
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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