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    IRS officials in Washington were involved in investigation of conservative [W:29]

    Internal Revenue Service officials in Washington and at least two other offices were involved in the targeting of conservative groups seeking tax-exempt status, making clear the effort reached well beyond the branch in Cincinnati that was initially blamed, according to documents obtained by The Washington Post.

    IRS officials at the agency’s Washington headquarters sent queries to conservative groups asking about their donors and other aspects of their operations, while officials in the El Monte and Laguna Niguel offices in California sent similar questionnaires to tea party-affiliated groups.


    IRS officials in Washington were involved in targeting of conservative groups - The Washington Post

    and up the ladder it goes all the way to the WH
    pack your bags Obama

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    re: IRS officials in Washington were involved in investigation of conservative [W:29]

    Mitch McConnel today is saying its not only the IRS but numerous other Fed Agencies. Lots of Liberal will be lining up to take the fall for Bama.

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    re: IRS officials in Washington were involved in investigation of conservative [W:29]

    washington post, 5:39 pm eastern

    Internal Revenue Service officials in Washington and at least two other offices were involved in the targeting of conservative groups seeking tax-exempt status, making clear that the effort reached well beyond the branch in Cincinnati that was initially blamed, according to documents obtained by The Washington Post.

    IRS officials at the agency’s Washington headquarters sent queries to conservative groups asking about their donors and other aspects of their operations, while officials in the El Monte and Laguna Niguel offices in California sent similar questionnaires to tea party-affiliated groups.

    IRS employees in Cincinnati also told conservatives seeking the status of “social welfare” groups that a task force in Washington was overseeing their applications, according to interviews with the activists.

    Moreover, details of the IRS’s efforts to target conservative groups reached the highest levels of the agency in May 2012, far earlier than has been disclosed, according to Republican congressional aides briefed by the IRS and the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration (TIGTA) on the details of their reviews.

    Then commissioner, Douglas Shulman, a George W. Bush appointee who stepped down in November, received a briefing from the TIGTA about what was happening in the Cincinnati office in May 2012, the aides said. His deputy and the agency’s current acting commissioner, Steven T. Miller, also learned about the matter that month, the aides said.

    The officials did not share details with Republican lawmakers who had been demanding to know whether the IRS was targeting conservative groups, Republicans said.

    “I wrote to the IRS three times last year after hearing concerns that conservative groups were being targeted,” Sen. Orrin G. Hatch (R-Utah), the ranking member of the Senate Finance Committee, said in a statement Monday. “In response to the first letter I sent with some of my colleagues, Steven Miller, the current Acting IRS Commissioner, responded that these groups weren’t being targeted.”

    White House spokesman Jay Carney told reporters Monday that the White House counsel’s office learned of an upcoming IRS inspector’s general report on April 22 as part of a routine notification, but had not received access to the report.

    Although some of the groups were explicitly labeled “tea party” or “patriot,” others that came under intense scrutiny were focused on challenging the Affordable Care Act — known by many as Obamacare — or the integrity of federal elections.

    In a June 3, 2011, letter to the IRS, Mitchell questioned the agency’s motivations for delaying recognition of one of her clients who had filed nearly two years earlier, writing, “Is the [group’s] opposition to Obamacare and the takeover of America’s healthcare system by the government the reason that this application has been held up and not approved?”

    Catherine Engelbrecht, president of the Houston-based True the Vote, first filed for tax-exempt status in July 2010. At one point, Engelbrecht — who is still awaiting a determination from the IRS regarding her voting rights organization and a separate tea party group, King Street Patriots — said an IRS employee informed her: I'm just doing what Washington is telling me to do. I’m just asking what they want me to ask.”

    The IRS did not respond to requests for comment Monday.
    IRS officials in Washington were involved in targeting of conservative groups - The Washington Post

    the prof knew in february, 2012

    the prof posted it here in dp

    Claim: IRS Won't Approve Tax Status for Richmond Tea Party

    IRS Battling Tea Party Groups Over Tax-Exempt Status

    bill kristol and arianna huffington knew in march, 2012

    the former director and current acting director knew in may, 2012

    but barack hussein obama didn't find out til last friday

    this will not fly---he's doomed

    he's lost wapo, for one thing

    has he still got YOU?

    you're loyal, gotta give ya that

    but loyal to what?

    trainwreck baucus, chair of finance, is gonna hold hearings IN THE SENATE

    downstairs, camp at ways and means says MONTHS

    mr shulman testified under oath in march, definitively, unequivocally: there was no special treatment for wingnuts

    the ig says shulman was informed of the details in may

    why didn't barack obama's irs commissioner correct his false testimony?

    targeting groups opposed to the affordable care act, huh?

    otherwise known as obamacare...

    that's getting kinda close
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    re: IRS officials in Washington were involved in investigation of conservative [W:29]

    I hope all the truth will come out, but this is all pretty depressing in a Nixonian "enemies list" kinda way.

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    re: IRS officials in Washington were involved in investigation of conservative [W:29]

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    Internal Revenue Service officials in Washington and at least two other offices were involved in the targeting of conservative groups seeking tax-exempt status, making clear the effort reached well beyond the branch in Cincinnati that was initially blamed, according to documents obtained by The Washington Post.
    They didn't go far enough. Any 501(c)4 with anything even remotely political in their descriptions should have gotten a full force audit if they were over a threshold in assets. I don't give a **** who you are backing.

    The past two elections have been abused up the *** by PACs. And so many 501(c)4s are functionally PACs. The Service needs to come down hard.

    If you want to be all political, fine, just don't abuse the tax exemption to do it.
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    re: IRS officials in Washington were involved in investigation of conservative [W:29]

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    Internal Revenue Service officials in Washington and at least two other offices were involved in the targeting of conservative groups seeking tax-exempt status, making clear the effort reached well beyond the branch in Cincinnati that was initially blamed, according to documents obtained by The Washington Post.

    IRS officials at the agency’s Washington headquarters sent queries to conservative groups asking about their donors and other aspects of their operations, while officials in the El Monte and Laguna Niguel offices in California sent similar questionnaires to tea party-affiliated groups.


    IRS officials in Washington were involved in targeting of conservative groups - The Washington Post

    and up the ladder it goes all the way to the WH
    pack your bags Obama
    Somebody is getting fired over this, but if you think it's Obama, you're delusional.

    Although I tend to agree with Obvious Child. These tax-exempt organizations deserve broad and overwhelming scrutiny, they've been abused for too long.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    re: IRS officials in Washington were involved in investigation of conservative [W:29]

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    Mitch McConnel today is saying its not only the IRS but numerous other Fed Agencies. Lots of Liberal will be lining up to take the fall for Bama.
    Don't think they will line up to to take the fall when a criminal convection is used as a bargaining chip, because this goes beyond unethical it broke the law. it is illegal what was done

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    re: IRS officials in Washington were involved in investigation of conservative [W:29]

    wapo's cillizza, speaking for just about every mouth with a voice today on msnbc

    President Obama waited 3 days to address the IRS scandal. Why?

    Obama’s strong condemnation of the growing scandal came amid similar denunciations from Democratic elected officials. Montana Sen. Max Baucus called it an “outrageous abuse of power and a breach of the public’s trust.” West Virginia Sen. Joe Manchin described the IRS’ actions as “unacceptable and un-American.” You get the idea.

    The question being asked in the political world today is whether the condemnations are too little, too late. As in, did the Obama Administration — and other Democrats in the House and Senate — miss their chance to claim some sort of high(ish) message ground by largely taking a pass on the story when it broke on Friday morning?

    Let’s revisit how the White House handled the story.

    First, press secretary Jay Carney was asked about the story at a press briefing later on Friday. “If this activity took place, it is inappropriate,” Carney said while repeatedly emphasizing that the IRS is “an independent enforcement agency” that has only two political appointees.

    Then, on Saturday, Carney issued another, slightly more expansive statement. “The President believes that the American people expect and deserve to have the very best public servants with the highest levels of integrity working in government agencies on their behalf,” it read in part. “Based on recent media reports, he is concerned that the conduct of a small number of Internal Revenue Service employees may have fallen short of that standard.”

    Then, silence. Democrats largely avoided saying or doing anything over the weekend — even as the story grew worse for the IRS and people like Maine Sen. Susan Collins, not exactly a partisan bomb-thrower, called the episode “absolutely chilling” on Sunday.

    We asked around Democratic circles this morning in search of some insight as to the strategy behind most elected Democrats staying (largely) silent while Republicans leapt on the issue like Jamie Lannister jumping into a bear pit.

    The White House side of things goes something like this: Carney’s main focus in the Friday presser was on the questions raised about the edits made to talking points issued in the wake of the attacks in Benghazi, Libya. Getting that right was of critical importance and deviating at all from the plan to fully engage on that issue could have had a set of bad political consequences all its own. The White House also knew that Obama had today’s press conference with British Prime Minister David Cameron already on the schedule, an event that would give him/them a chance to adress the IRS issue head on. And, as Obama himself said today, he only learned of the IRS allegations Friday so offering a blanket condemnation might have been tough in such a short time window.

    Democratic Congressional strategists offered little in the way of explanation for the relative silence of their incumbents/candidates on the IRS over the weekend other than to say that Senators and House Members typically take their cues from the White House in sticky political situations like this one.
    independent agency with only two appointees...

    unfortunately, the former commissioner and the acting commissioner, mr's shulman and miller, both knew in may 2012, says tigta

    shulman and miller both allowed the discrimination to continue

    and both obama's appointees at the irs lied about the agency's practices for at least a year to congress, to citizens, to YOU

    so we got this ap phone flap and this illicit irs inferno...

    you're gonna hear conservatives bringing up the kill list, the assertion by holder that he can take out american citizens on american soil by fiat, caprice

    Eric Holder: Drone Strike To Kill U.S. Citizen On American Soil Legal

    this white house is power mad

    and that's no spin, wynn

    you better get out fast

    cuz if wapo's wobbling...
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    re: IRS officials in Washington were involved in investigation of conservative [W:29]

    time magazine's joe klein:

    "It's no secret that this hasn't been the best managed administration that we've seen come down the pike in a while, although the president really is proud of his record of non-corruption which this, you know, kind of destroys. I do believe that in the end, the big issue isn't going to be the mistake and the stupidity of the mid-level employees who launched this, but it's going to be how much did the White House know and when did it know it? Was this scandal submerged for electoral purposes in 2011, 2012?" (Hardball, May 13, 2013)
    Klein On IRS: "How Much Did The White House Know And When Did It Know It? | RealClearPolitics

    obama today at "the sideshow:"

    Well, let me take the IRS situation first. I first learned about it from the same news reports that I think most people learned about this. I think it was on Friday.
    Obama: I First Learned Of IRS Situation On Friday | RealClearPolitics

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    re: IRS officials in Washington were involved in investigation of conservative [W:29]

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    They didn't go far enough. Any 501(c)4 with anything even remotely political in their descriptions should have gotten a full force audit if they were over a threshold in assets. I don't give a **** who you are backing.

    The past two elections have been abused up the *** by PACs. And so many 501(c)4s are functionally PACs. The Service needs to come down hard.

    If you want to be all political, fine, just don't abuse the tax exemption to do it.
    Your rant would be fine if the IRS went after all these 501c organizations. It is an abuse of power when the IRS is used as a weapon against one political party.

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