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    Bangladesh to allow unions for garment workers

    DHAKA, Bangladesh (AP) Bangladesh's government agreed Monday to allow the country's garment workers to form trade unions without prior permission from factory owners, the latest response to a building collapse that killed more than 1,100 people and focused global attention on the industry's hazardous conditions.

    The Cabinet decision came a day after the government announced a plan to raise the minimum wage for garment workers, who are paid some of the lowest wages in the world to sew clothing bound for global retailers. Both moves are seen as a direct response to the April 24 collapse of an eight-story building housing five garment factories, the worst disaster in the history of the global garment industry.
    It's sad that it took such a sad event for unions to be allowed but oh wait...

    Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    The Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire in New York City on March 25, 1911, was the deadliest industrial disaster in the history of the city of New York and resulted in the fourth highest loss of life from an industrial accident in U.S. history. It was also the second deadliest disaster in New York City after the burning of the General Slocum on June 15, 1904 until the destruction of the World Trade Center 90 years later. The fire caused the deaths of 146 garment workers, who died from the fire, smoke inhalation, or falling or jumping to their deaths. Most of the victims were recent Jewish and Italian immigrant women aged sixteen to twenty-three;[1][2][3] of the victims whose ages are known, the oldest victim was Providenza Panno at 43, and the youngest were 14-year-olds Kate Leone and "Sara" Rosaria Maltese.[4]



    Because the managers had locked the doors to the stairwells and exits a common practice at the time to prevent pilferage and unauthorized breaks[5] many of the workers who could not escape the burning building jumped from the eighth, ninth, and tenth floors to the streets below. The fire led to legislation requiring improved factory safety standards and helped spur the growth of the International Ladies' Garment Workers' Union, which fought for better working conditions for sweatshop workers.
    Those evil, eviiiiilll unions I tells ya.
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    Re: Bangladesh to allow unions for garment workers

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    It's sad that it took such a sad event for unions to be allowed but oh wait...

    Triangle Shirtwaist Factory fire - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Those evil, eviiiiilll unions I tells ya.
    It will be interesting to see Bangladesh's interpretation of "unions." Yet this disaster had nothing to do with unions. This was a direct result of crappy building codes or nonenforcement of building codes. I mean, when a freaking building FALLS DOWN, unions aren't going to be holding it up, for God's sake.

    Nevertheless, this is Bangladesh's answer to the most embarrassing and horrific industrial accident (that wasn't an accident at all) in modern history. They're trying to appease you and me. If other buildings are built with the no- doubt corruption that this factory was built upon? It won't do any good at all to have unions. What they need are building codes and the balls to enforce them.
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    Re: Bangladesh to allow unions for garment workers

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    It will be interesting to see Bangladesh's interpretation of "unions." Yet this disaster had nothing to do with unions. This was a direct result of crappy building codes or nonenforcement of building codes. I mean, when a freaking building FALLS DOWN, unions aren't going to be holding it up, for God's sake.

    Nevertheless, this is Bangladesh's answer to the most embarrassing and horrific industrial accident (that wasn't an accident at all) in modern history. They're trying to appease you and me. If other buildings are built with the no- doubt corruption that this factory was built upon? It won't do any good at all to have unions. What they need are building codes and the balls to enforce them.
    Unions were pretty much responsible for the creation and enforcement of safety guidelines. 100 years ago, workers have nearly no labor rights and are dying right and left due to ****ty bosses not caring enough to provide safety standards. Fast forward 100 years and in most places you can't even get a job unless you've got a little paper that says you can at least be around the machinery. Big business in 3rd world countries get away with this kind of stuff all the time because governments come down hard on workers trying to create unions. Unions and safety standards come hand in hand.
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    Re: Bangladesh to allow unions for garment workers

    ...and in other news Bangladesh's unemployment rate is about to rise. Pakistanis work cheap too.

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    Re: Bangladesh to allow unions for garment workers

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    ...and in other news Bangladesh's unemployment rate is about to rise. Pakistanis work cheap too.
    I know right! If they stop letting workers die in industrial accidents there will never be enough jobs to go around!

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    Re: Bangladesh to allow unions for garment workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Those evil, eviiiiilll unions I tells ya.
    My gripe with Unions are those in Europe and the US who argue for high wages in the US (and Europe) thus making these markets uncompetitive compared to Vietnam, Bangladesh, China and so on. I've always held the position that European and US unions should actually focus their efforts in those countries to raise the wages and working conditions in those countries first and foremost. Every wage increase and working condition improvement they get, the less of a comparative advantage they have so less and less will look to ship jobs overseas.

    But for these kinds of comments, I am a "anti-union".
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    Re: Bangladesh to allow unions for garment workers

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    It will be interesting to see Bangladesh's interpretation of "unions." Yet this disaster had nothing to do with unions. This was a direct result of crappy building codes or nonenforcement of building codes. I mean, when a freaking building FALLS DOWN, unions aren't going to be holding it up, for God's sake.

    Nevertheless, this is Bangladesh's answer to the most embarrassing and horrific industrial accident (that wasn't an accident at all) in modern history. They're trying to appease you and me. If other buildings are built with the no- doubt corruption that this factory was built upon? It won't do any good at all to have unions. What they need are building codes and the balls to enforce them.
    Why involve the government? Shouldn't the free market be allowed to resolve the so-called "unsafe" working conditions?

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    Re: Bangladesh to allow unions for garment workers

    Quote Originally Posted by the_recruit View Post
    I know right! If they stop letting workers die in industrial accidents there will never be enough jobs to go around!
    building codes will not be changed by unions and people looking for cheap labor will find it. I'd be willing to bet most of the crap we both own was made by 3rd world workers. reality is what it is.

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    Re: Bangladesh to allow unions for garment workers

    Quote Originally Posted by the_recruit View Post
    Why involve the government? Shouldn't the free market be allowed to resolve the so-called "unsafe" working conditions?
    No, the free market can't resolve "so-called unsafe working conditions." In our country, our factories don't fall down. That's not the result of the brilliance and generosity of the free-market. That's the result of building codes. Safety conditions inside our factories are the result of OSHA regulations. Some of them may have well been the result of union suggestion; but we're already seeing free market at work in Bangladesh. Buildings collapse.
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    Re: Bangladesh to allow unions for garment workers

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    building codes will not be changed by unions and people looking for cheap labor will find it.
    Why not? Unions played a big role in improving workplace safety in America's history. Today, I think labor unions are just as focused on greed as they employers, they exist to simply try to get the biggest piece of the pie they can. But that has not always been true and there absolutely was a period in our history when unions were necessary.

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    I'd be willing to bet most of the crap we both own was made by 3rd world workers.
    So? I don't have any problem with cheap overseas labor and I don't consider it exploitative (in general).

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    How profound. You must be an NBA player.

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