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    Re: Govt obtains wide AP phone records in probe

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    No, the Patriot Act does not permit the government to search whatever business records it chooses.
    Of course it does as long as it's under the umbrella of counter-terrorism. This is what the right wanted. Now they've got it. Seems like poetic justice to me. The whining from the right over Obama Justice Department using the laws they passed is just the icing on the cake.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Of course it does as long as it's under the umbrella of counter-terrorism. This is what the right wanted. Now they've got it. Seems like poetic justice to me. The whining from the right over Obama Justice Department using the laws they passed is just the icing on the cake.
    LOL - this is a new one. And what sort of terrorist activity do you think the AP was involved in? Do you think their reporters were planning some sort of attack?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    I just like the way the left wing posters here have tried to use this to argue that the press isn't liberal.... because, apparently, liberals wouldn't be opposed to gross incompetence in Benghazi, or criminal misconduct at the IRS, or a direct attack on the 1st Amendment.

    I remember reading a story a while ago about yet another study that showed the psychological differences in liberals and conservatives that many liberals posted as proof they are smarter. The study showed Liberals were, in general, very skilled at holding two naturally contradictory beliefs at the same time. They argued then that this was just proof that Liberals are great at compromising. In reality I think the study was spot on, but that ability really just manifests itself in threads like this were liberal posters can argue the evil slippery slope of the Patriot Act AND defend Obama for treating it like a slip-n-slide.
    Yeah, kinda like when rightwing WorldNetDaily exposed Bush for using tax audits for political purposes. It's just like that, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    LOL - this is a new one. And what sort of terrorist activity do you think the AP was involved in? Do you think their reporters were planning some sort of attack?
    It wasn't the press the government was after -- it was their sources who had alleged ties to terrorism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    It wasn't the press the government was after -- it was their sources who had alleged ties to terrorism.
    There is no evidence whatsoever of which I'm aware that their "sources had alleged ties to terrorism" - quite the opposite actually.

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    Re: Govt obtains wide AP phone records in probe

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    It wasn't the press the government was after -- it was their sources who had alleged ties to terrorism.
    Snarf! Excuse me. So, the government was after terrorists? Huh. It's odd then, that the terrorists that killed four Americans in Libya, the one's we have on film and have identified, run freely and openly in the region to this day. As Carney said, eight months is a long time ago. Yet, they've done nothing. Instead, they're focused on possible terrorist sources possibly used by reporters at AP? You're not straining credibility here at all, are you?

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    Re: Govt obtains wide AP phone records in probe

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    There is no evidence whatsoever of which I'm aware that their "sources had alleged ties to terrorism" - quite the opposite actually.
    I wasn't aware that the government was obliged to share their evidence, under the Patriot Act, with you? At any rate, I find it wholly ironic that the right now complains about the Patriot Act after all the years they championed it. What changed?

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    Re: Govt obtains wide AP phone records in probe

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    I wasn't aware that the government was obliged to share their evidence, under the Patriot Act, with you? At any rate, I find it wholly ironic that the right now complains about the Patriot Act after all the years they championed it. What changed?
    Doesn't appear that this power originated with the Patriot Act. All it requires is AG approval.

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    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Snarf! Excuse me. So, the government was after terrorists? Huh. It's odd then, that the terrorists that killed four Americans in Libya, the one's we have on film and have identified, run freely and openly in the region to this day. As Carney said, eight months is a long time ago. Yet, they've done nothing. Instead, they're focused on possible terrorist sources possibly used by reporters at AP? You're not straining credibility here at all, are you?
    LOL - you never know, maybe these "terrorist sources" used by the AP said the word "Constitution" at some point - or mentioned that they like to drink tea. In either case that could have raised a major red flag for the Obama admin.

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    Re: Govt obtains wide AP phone records in probe

    Additionally, the specific law governing AG-only approved wiretaps requires that they do not last longer than 7 days. If it went on for two months, as reported, then he is going to get fired.

    50 USC 1805 - Issuance of order | Title 50 - War and National Defense | U.S. Code | LII / Legal Information Institute

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