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    Re: Govt obtains wide AP phone records in probe

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Pretty much the same crap that went on under Bush... difference is that was your guy.
    If that is the truth the only difference is your inability to whine like a stuck pig about it. Now. Pretty much a safe bet the only reason you are whining about Bush and the supposed "same thing" now (in 2013) is because you are not only stuck in the Bushverse but unable to bring yourself, at least publicly here at DP, NOW, to whine about it much less acknowledge it. Must mean you have a bias? Do tell how that is not so. This should be good. Like a novella.

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    Re: Govt obtains wide AP phone records in probe

    Anyone got a link to George Bush wiretapping the media?

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    Re: Govt obtains wide AP phone records in probe

    Quote Originally Posted by Gie View Post
    If that is the truth the only difference is your inability to whine like a stuck pig about it. Now. Pretty much a safe bet the only reason you are whining about Bush and the supposed "same thing" now (in 2013) is because you are not only stuck in the Bushverse but unable to bring yourself, at least publicly here at DP, NOW, to whine about it much less acknowledge it. Must mean you have a bias? Do tell how that is not so. This should be good. Like a novella.
    No, I am just pointing out that the very same people up in arms over this, were defending the warrentless wiretapping of American citizens and yes there most likely was a journalist or two in that large bunch of people being listened too. Bush even imprisoned journalists and out right murdered them in Iraq and Afghanistan... oh no wait they were non-Americans so that is okay right?

    For a people who hate the government, it is always striking how the fake outrage only applies to a government run by the political opposition, but never when you are the one doing the illegal business.

    And for the record... if true that they did this without a warrant and not through FISA.. then yes it is a scandal and heads should roll.
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    Re: Govt obtains wide AP phone records in probe

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Anyone got a link to George Bush wiretapping the media?
    No.....but I got this just from the Deal with Attkisson from CBS.....

    The biggest Benghazi-related story that took place outside of the House Oversight Committee's hearing room today is this item in Politico, regarding CBS News correspondent Sharyl Attkisson. She's the reporter who famously drew White House officials' profane ire over her unapologetic pursuit of the Fast & Furious scandal story; now she's apparently facing searing criticism from another source: Her own bosses. Why? Because she's been covering the Benghazi story too aggressively. Ladies and gentlemen, I present to you media bias:

    [The media establishment and liberals] can’t stop conservative media from existing, but they can ghettoize it as illegitimate and “partisan” in a way that their own partisan garbage isn’t....Skepticism about Benghazi is fine for the wingnuts at Fox, but bringing such unhelpful nonsense into an “impartial,” i.e. pro-Obama, outlet like CBS risks lending credence to the GOP’s accusations. The proper line to take on Benghazi is to dismiss the new hearings with a sneer, a la Joe Klein, or, in the case of “impartial” news coverage, to dismiss them more lightly by referencing Hillary’s long-ago whining about a “vast right-wing conspiracy” to discredit the Clintons. “Going where the story leads” is unhelpful to liberalism in this case, ergo it’s advocacy by definition.

    Attkisson's reporting makes Benghazi harder to pigeonhole as a right-wing conspiratorial obsession. CBS News owns a(n unjustified) platinum reputation in lefty media circles, rendering one of their correspondent's tireless work on an unhelpful subject doubly unhelpful. Thus, the suits are marginalizing her and questioning her integrity, accusing her of walking dangerously close to the activism line.....snip~

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/bias-m...reporting.html

    Also, the AP had Ron Fournier quit and go to the National Journal.

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    Govt obtains wide AP phone records in probe

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    No, I am just pointing out that the very same people up in arms over this, were defending the warrentless wiretapping of American citizens and yes there most likely was a journalist or two in that large bunch of people being listened too. Bush even imprisoned journalists and out right murdered them in Iraq and Afghanistan... oh no wait they were non-Americans so that is okay right?

    For a people who hate the government, it is always striking how the fake outrage only applies to a government run by the political opposition, but never when you are the one doing the illegal business.

    And for the record... if true that they did this without a warrant and not through FISA.. then yes it is a scandal and heads should roll.
    Blah blah blah! Turn this on to Bush and the republicans. Don't focus on how this is a potential major screw up by the Obama administration.

    It doesn't matter if you were for it against wiretapping, Warrantless wiretapping was a major problem. Just like killing journalists regardless of their nationality is too. What YOU are saying is that it shouldn't be a big deal to us because "we supported it in the past." Are you kidding?
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    Re: Govt obtains wide AP phone records in probe

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    Blah blah blah! Turn this on to Bush and the republicans. Don't focus on how this is a potential major screw up by the Obama administration.

    It doesn't matter if you were for it against wiretapping, Warrantless wiretapping was a major problem. Just like killing journalists regardless of their nationality is too. What YOU are saying is that it shouldn't be a big deal to us because "we supported it in the past." Are you kidding?
    No I am not..it is fake outrage by most on the right.... that is what I am saying.

    Listen either you are totally against targeting journalists regardless of nationality and against warrantless wiretapping or you are for it.. regardless who is in power. And in this case, many who are going after Obama and his administration for this and other stuff, were defending the Bush administration for similar or worse issues of abuse of power and to this day (even in this thread) deny that the Bush administration did not do similar illegalities, when it is very clear that they did.

    Now, like I said... if someone in the Obama administration did this to the AP journalists and did it without a legal warrant, then heads should roll. But so far, all I have seen is more accusations by the same idiots running the "Bengahzi scandal" witch hunt, and their credibility is only slight above Hamas and Hizbollah.
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    Hmm double post.. strange
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    Re: Govt obtains wide AP phone records in probe

    Anyone defending the indefensible is a partisan hack. I'm irrationally tempted to ignore all of them. Shame on you.

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    Re: Govt obtains wide AP phone records in probe

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Govt obtains wide AP phone records in probe


    Alright, this getting downright scary. The IRS, the Feds, the cover-up of Benghazi......what in the hell is going on?
    Doesn't the Patriot Act make this legal?

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    Re: Govt obtains wide AP phone records in probe

    Quote Originally Posted by Sheik Yerbuti View Post
    Doesn't the Patriot Act make this legal?
    Is that a joke?

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