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    Re: Govt obtains wide AP phone records in probe

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob N View Post
    If the MSM is always on Obama's side than why would the Press hurt him?

    "A house divided against itself cannot stand,"
    Umm, because they had their privacy violated by the administration?

    DUH?

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    Re: Govt obtains wide AP phone records in probe

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    Of course it does. Slap a big "terror" on the case and they can do anything.
    No, not really.

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    Re: Govt obtains wide AP phone records in probe

    Quote Originally Posted by StringBean View Post
    Umm, because they had their privacy violated by the administration?

    DUH?
    Don't you mean "by the Justice Department?"
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    Re: Govt obtains wide AP phone records in probe

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob N View Post
    Don't you mean "by the Justice Department?"
    The attorney general is part of the "administration," and such surveillance requires direct approval from the AG.

    So, yeah, from the administration.

    Of course, Obama is so aloof he knows nothing of this. Perhaps people like you empower such incompetence.

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    Re: Govt obtains wide AP phone records in probe

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    No, I am just pointing out that the very same people up in arms over this, were defending the warrentless wiretapping of American citizens and yes there most likely was a journalist or two in that large bunch of people being listened too. Bush even imprisoned journalists and out right murdered them in Iraq and Afghanistan... oh no wait they were non-Americans so that is okay right?

    For a people who hate the government, it is always striking how the fake outrage only applies to a government run by the political opposition, but never when you are the one doing the illegal business.

    And for the record... if true that they did this without a warrant and not through FISA.. then yes it is a scandal and heads should roll.
    No you are just pointing some some vague group of people supposedly up in arms about this that were not up in arms about something else. And of course dragging Bush and some supposed "outright" murders he suppsoedly committed into it. As always, a vacuous and intellectually empty dodge particularly since none of these supposed people appear to be in this thread. But boony for you that after some goading and calling out you were finally able to muster up the courage to address the topic at last and even say if it is true heads should roll.

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    Re: Govt obtains wide AP phone records in probe

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    No, not really.
    Has Team Obama explained away what excuse they had to Wiretap the Ap's Phones in the House of Representatives.....yet? See going after leaking information out of the White House with the AP. Doesn't give them any excuse to tap the House's Phones.

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    Re: Govt obtains wide AP phone records in probe

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    I don't want to make it black and white. That's a hallmark of how the right
    sees things. Everything they don't like is "Liberal." Anti-semitism, racism, Nazism - must be libbos.

    If, as the right often claims, the scary liberal media is run by the administration, why would they want to do that to their lapdogs?
    I have yet to see one Conservative poster claim the administration " runs the media" .

    I think the prevailing consensus is that the media is simply on the administrations side when they should have been the objective voice for Americans.

    And yes, when it comes to Bengjazi, or the IRS targeting people based on their political lean, or the AG illegally tapping the lines of a News orginizatio n, the distinctions between right and wrong are clear as a bell.

    How many times is your President, his AG, his Secretary of State going to claim that they're totally disconnected before you call bull sh** ?

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    Re: Govt obtains wide AP phone records in probe

    Quote Originally Posted by StringBean View Post
    The attorney general is part of the "administration," and such surveillance requires direct approval from the AG.

    So, yeah, from the administration.

    Of course, Obama is so aloof he knows nothing of this. Perhaps people like you empower such incompetence.
    Not even done with the investigation yet and Obama did it? Yeah, OK. Part of the administration and the administration is two very different things; I hope that you know that.
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    Re: Govt obtains wide AP phone records in probe

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob N View Post
    If the MSM is always on Obama's side than why would the Press hurt him?

    "A house divided against itself cannot stand,"
    Have you ever heard the old saw about rats leaving a sinking ship?
    Quod scripsi, scripsi

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    Re: Govt obtains wide AP phone records in probe

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    That just proves my point. We passed laws to protect those rights. Where is the constitutional amendment authorizing the govt to pay for healthcare? Just look at your first reponse to this thread
    The US Supreme Court has stated it is constitutional.... deal with it.

    Wheres your vigorous defense of democracy? You applaud people for defending democracy when democracy supports your ideology.
    It was there days after Bush so called won the 2000 election.. with the fewest votes. Where were you?
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