I'm curious - does anyone know - during the whole congressional investigation into who leaked Valerie Plame's identity/CIA status to the media, did the Bush administration's Justice Department subpoena the phone records of the New York Times and other news agencies? It seems to be a similar circumstance and would clear up for me the suggestion that "Republican admininstrations do the same thing" and the right is being hypocritical because it's Obama.
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(From the AP story)The Obama administration has aggressively investigated disclosures of classified information to the media and has brought six cases against people suspected of providing classified information, more than under all previous presidents combined.
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This obama white house seems to act a little more fascist each and every day, whats next martial law?
Why The Department Of Justice Is Going After The Associated Press' Records | ThinkProgress
Last year, the Associated Press reported that an Al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula (AQAP) plothad been foiled, thanks to a timely intervention on the part of the United States. The plan, according to the AP’s March 2012 story, involved an upgrade of the “underwear bomb” used in the failed Christmas Day 2009 bomb plot that was meant to take down a passenger airplane in Detroit, MI.
Why that drew the attention of the Justice Department, however, is that the CIA was the one who foiled the plot, which the AP report made clear:
The FBI is examining the latest bomb to see whether it could have passed through airport security and brought down an airplane, officials said. They said the device did not contain metal, meaning it probably could have passed through an airport metal detector. But it was not clear whether new body scanners used in many airports would have detected it.AP learned of the plot a week before publishing, but “agreed to White House and CIA requests not to publish it immediately” due to national security concerns. But, by reporting the CIA’s involvement in foiling the plot, they put AQAP on notice that the CIA had a window into their activities. The AP’s reporting also led to other stories involving an operative in place within AQAP, and details of the operations he was involved in. That operative, it was feared, would be exposed and targeted by AQAP as retribution for siding with the United States.
The would-be suicide bomber, based in Yemen, had not yet picked a target or bought a plane ticket when the CIA stepped in and seized the bomb, officials said. It’s not immediately clear what happened to the alleged bomber.
Again hypocrisy is a funny thing. I am against it, but it wasn't until I got a collegiate education and started getting interested in the law and political discussion that I myself understood the ramifications of the Patriot Act. I was in 7th Grade when they signed the Patriot Act into law. Hardly a "politically knowledgeable" Republican at that time. I know better now. I know that more government control is worse.isten either you are totally against targeting journalists regardless of nationality and against warrantless wiretapping or you are for it.. regardless who is in power.
I wasn't. I couldn't vote. I was also uneducated in the world of politics. Looking back now though...I will say that Bush was in a state of War...and we as a nation were switching from a world of conventional warfare, cold war build up/espionage, and severely behind in our understanding of Islamic terrorism and really terrorism in general. It isn't an excuse...but an explanation. What is the Obama Administration's explanation for such acts?And in this case, many who are going after Obama and his administration for this and other stuff, were defending the Bush administration for similar or worse issues of abuse of power and to this day (even in this thread) deny that the Bush administration did not do similar illegalities, when it is very clear that they did.
As far as I can tell so far there is no evidence of a warrant. That is a HUGE violation of the first. Unacceptable. At least the Bush Administration changed the law so they didn't need warrants. Not kosher...but there is a difference here.Now, like I said... if someone in the Obama administration did this to the AP journalists and did it without a legal warrant, then heads should roll. But so far, all I have seen is more accusations by the same idiots running the "Bengahzi scandal" witch hunt, and their credibility is only slight above Hamas and Hizbollah.
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