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    Minnesota Senate debating SSM bill

    Same-sex marriage almost a reality in Minnesota | Minnesota Public Radio News

    It has already passed the House. Assuming it passes here (which is believed likely), the Gov said he will sign it, making gay marriage legal in Minnesota.


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    Re: Minnesota Senate debating SSM bill

    Waiting on bated breath. Come on, Minnesota. Make us known for something other than Michelle Bachmann and snow.

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    Re: Minnesota Senate debating SSM bill

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    Waiting on bated breath. Come on, Minnesota. Make us known for something other than Michelle Bachmann and snow.
    Allowing SSM is just one more nail in the coffin that has for years been attacking and debasing normal marriage with various forms of do good legislation. It demands that people ignore what is self-evidently natures most productive form of bonding, establishing the most ideal way to rear children. It requires that in free societies, we must come to accept all attempts to instill and install laws that govern the reverse of what is self evident. We will be known as the generation that destroyed itself, or at least began the process.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Allowing SSM is just one more nail in the coffin that has for years been attacking and debasing normal marriage with various forms of do good legislation. It demands that people ignore what is self-evidently natures most productive form of bonding, establishing the most ideal way to rear children. It requires that in free societies, we must come to accept all attempts to instill and install laws that govern the reverse of what is self evident. We will be known as the generation that destroyed itself, or at least began the process.


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    How do gays debase your marriage?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Allowing SSM is just one more nail in the coffin that has for years been attacking and debasing normal marriage with various forms of do good legislation. It demands that people ignore what is self-evidently natures most productive form of bonding, establishing the most ideal way to rear children. It requires that in free societies, we must come to accept all attempts to instill and install laws that govern the reverse of what is self evident. We will be known as the generation that destroyed itself, or at least began the process.


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    Well, your narrow minded "self evident truths" are contradicted by both reality and the dictates of civil rights. So frankly, my dear, I don't give a damn. You're simply on the wrong side of history.

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    Re: Minnesota Senate debating SSM bill

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    How do gays debase your marriage?
    Not my marriage, marriage in general. I thought I made it pretty clear. Two homosexuals attaining the same status as my marriage by itself means nothing. Two homosexuals pretending to be husband and wife and raising children is self evidently illegitimate. In spite of how the social scientists will try and redefine what constitutes a healthy environment for children, the best is both a mother and a father to imprint upon them their gender specific attributes, experiences, and interpretations of the world around them. Allowing SSM and parenting will not destroy the human species, but over time I do believe that it will, along with other laws ignoring the marriage contract, and religious expression, debase the concept of marriage entirely. Children will ultimately become merely a product of sex, and ideas of themselves one day meeting an opposite sex partner to settle down with and form a family will have lost all incentive. Simply to produce a child will become known as the success in the evolutionary process. Settling down and forming a nuclear family will become the minority option, and future legislation will afford no privileges to those that do, and THAT is a shame!


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    Re: Minnesota Senate debating SSM bill

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Not my marriage, marriage in general. I thought I made it pretty clear. Two homosexuals attaining the same status as my marriage by itself means nothing. Two homosexuals pretending to be husband and wife and raising children is self evidently illegitimate. In spite of how the social scientists will try and redefine what constitutes a healthy environment for children, the best is both a mother and a father to imprint upon them their gender specific attributes, experiences, and interpretations of the world around them. Allowing SSM and parenting will not destroy the human species, but over time I do believe that it will, along with other laws ignoring the marriage contract, and religious expression, debase the concept of marriage entirely. Children will ultimately become merely a product of sex, and ideas of themselves one day meeting an opposite sex partner to settle down with and form a family will have lost all incentive. Simply to produce a child will become known as the success in the evolutionary process. Settling down and forming a nuclear family will become the minority option, and future legislation will afford no privileges to those that do, and THAT is a shame!


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    I know a couple of gay couples raising children. They're as well-behaved, and more well adjusted than my children. While I agree that a man and a woman is optimal, don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good. Gay parents is better than no parents. Ask my kids what no parents is like, they'll tell you it sucks unequivocably.


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    Re: Minnesota Senate debating SSM bill

    I find it interesting how many states that uphold traditional marriage do so via state constitutional amendments voted on by people. States that legalize SSM appear to like doing so at the legislative level without having the people vote on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I find it interesting how many states that uphold traditional marriage do so via state constitutional amendments voted on by people. States that legalize SSM appear to like doing so at the legislative level without having the people vote on it.
    They tried one of those Amendments here last year. It went before the people and was defeated by almost 6 points.

    Edit: An amendment to ban it.


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    Re: Minnesota Senate debating SSM bill

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    They tried one of those Amendments here last year. It went before the people and was defeated by almost 6 points.
    An amendment upholding traditional marriage or legalizing SSM?

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