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    Re: Gosnell guilty of 3 counts of murder

    Quote Originally Posted by AliHajiSheik View Post
    He was a crappy doctor, but wasn't he giving his customer what they wanted? When you pay for an abortion, don't you expect to get a dead "baby"?
    You should... read more about what actually happened at this guy's "clinic."
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: Gosnell guilty of 3 counts of murder

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    You should... read more about what actually happened at this guy's "clinic."
    Yep. And the grand jury report is available online and has been posted many times. Pics available too.

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    Re: Gosnell guilty of 3 counts of murder

    Unless the women were forced to abort without their consent there should not be murder charges. If he did the abortions at a point when they were not allowed then he should face charges for illegal abortions and not for murder. If he was disposing of the remains wrongfully after the abortion procedure then they should nail him for that. The problem is this is not murder, and because of that may get wiped out in appeals because the courts and the anti-abortion extremists want to go way overboard on charges. Whatever ways he broke the law I am fine with charging him for, but I do not think it is murder to abort a baby for a willing mother.

    I also think thwese charges were brought as a political step and as vengeance for the anti-abortion crowd who has no real involvement with any of this. No one cared about those babies lives enough to rush in and pay for the pregnancy and commit to raising them in a loving household to avoid the abortions. The right doesn't even want to pay for WIC, school lunches, or SNAP for poor kids who are not responsible for the positions they are born to. They were unwanted children, and that reality would always haunt them. Maybe the right should be a little more appalled by it's own lack of character when it comes to helping disadvantaged kids born to bad circumstances which pretty much leads to a huge reason why many people chose abortion. This guy broke the law regarding abortions and he deserves to be punished for the laws he broke. Abortion is not murder in this country, and it should not be murder anywhere. Since the other stuff seems to be true i am fine with him losing his medical license and jail time for performing abortions at the wrong time, and also his disposal of biohazard waste in a very improper manner if that is true.

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    Re: Gosnell guilty of 3 counts of murder

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    Unless the women were forced to abort without their consent there should not be murder charges. If he did the abortions at a point when they were not allowed then he should face charges for illegal abortions and not for murder. If he was disposing of the remains wrongfully after the abortion procedure then they should nail him for that. The problem is this is not murder, and because of that may get wiped out in appeals because the courts and the anti-abortion extremists want to go way overboard on charges. Whatever ways he broke the law I am fine with charging him for, but I do not think it is murder to abort a baby for a willing mother.

    I also think thwese charges were brought as a political step and as vengeance for the anti-abortion crowd who has no real involvement with any of this. No one cared about those babies lives enough to rush in and pay for the pregnancy and commit to raising them in a loving household to avoid the abortions. The right doesn't even want to pay for WIC, school lunches, or SNAP for poor kids who are not responsible for the positions they are born to. They were unwanted children, and that reality would always haunt them. Maybe the right should be a little more appalled by it's own lack of character when it comes to helping disadvantaged kids born to bad circumstances which pretty much leads to a huge reason why many people chose abortion. This guy broke the law regarding abortions and he deserves to be punished for the laws he broke. Abortion is not murder in this country, and it should not be murder anywhere. Since the other stuff seems to be true i am fine with him losing his medical license and jail time for performing abortions at the wrong time, and also his disposal of biohazard waste in a very improper manner if that is true.
    I think you should read the grand jury report and familiarize yourself with its particulars.

    http://www.phila.gov/districtattorne...ensmedical.pdf

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    Re: Gosnell guilty of 3 counts of murder

    Quote Originally Posted by Viktyr Gehrig View Post
    I don't give a damn about the dead babies.
    Oh I do. I think of my friend's new born son who's still in the NICU and I can't imagine anyone wanting to hurt him either now, one month ago or two or three months ago. I've always been philosophically anti-abortion in a "it's bad to hurt babies" kind of way but helping her throughout her pregnancy, watching his devlopement through endless sonogram pictures has made me more pro-life than ever.

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    Re: Gosnell guilty of 3 counts of murder

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    UPDATE: Columnist JD Mullane reports that Dr. Kermit Gosnell was found guilty in three of four first degree murder charges for babies born alive. More to come.

    Gosnell Found Guilty of First Degree Murder in ‘House of Horrors’ Abortion, Murder Trial | TheBlaze.com
    I have read what he is accused of/been convicted of, and if that is indeed what he did (kill viable babies) than he deserves all the jail time in the world. Life without parole seems fitting.
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    Re: Gosnell guilty of 3 counts of murder

    Quote Originally Posted by zgoldsmith23 View Post
    I know ... damn regulations.
    actually, the major issue here was the complete lack of regulation. Reading the grand jury report can be rather mind blowing in the extent on what was ignored, willfully hidden, and allowed by the medical community and health regulators

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    Re: Gosnell guilty of 3 counts of murder

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Yea. Horrifying. So evil and horrifying those damn liberals are and their positions they support.
    well, the problems stem from a political attitude that abortion providers should have free reign, because any amount of oversight would work as a deterrent. But it was put into place by Ridge.

    Though a lack of basic safety regulations shouldn't turn into a partisan issue

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    Re: Gosnell guilty of 3 counts of murder

    Quote Originally Posted by zgoldsmith23 View Post
    I want to regulate how much soda you drink? I don't remember saying that. Why? Because I don't want to regulate how much soda you drink.
    But you do~!!! You just don't know it yet.

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    Re: Gosnell guilty of 3 counts of murder

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    Unless the women were forced to abort without their consent there should not be murder charges. If he did the abortions at a point when they were not allowed then he should face charges for illegal abortions and not for murder. If he was disposing of the remains wrongfully after the abortion procedure then they should nail him for that. The problem is this is not murder, and because of that may get wiped out in appeals because the courts and the anti-abortion extremists want to go way overboard on charges. Whatever ways he broke the law I am fine with charging him for, but I do not think it is murder to abort a baby for a willing mother.

    I also think thwese charges were brought as a political step and as vengeance for the anti-abortion crowd who has no real involvement with any of this. No one cared about those babies lives enough to rush in and pay for the pregnancy and commit to raising them in a loving household to avoid the abortions. The right doesn't even want to pay for WIC, school lunches, or SNAP for poor kids who are not responsible for the positions they are born to. They were unwanted children, and that reality would always haunt them. Maybe the right should be a little more appalled by it's own lack of character when it comes to helping disadvantaged kids born to bad circumstances which pretty much leads to a huge reason why many people chose abortion. This guy broke the law regarding abortions and he deserves to be punished for the laws he broke. Abortion is not murder in this country, and it should not be murder anywhere. Since the other stuff seems to be true i am fine with him losing his medical license and jail time for performing abortions at the wrong time, and also his disposal of biohazard waste in a very improper manner if that is true.
    He killed 3 babies that were born alive.

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