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    Re: Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That's the chance you take, because...military operations, especially special operations are dangerous by their very nature.

    Little Bighorn is a bad example, BTW. Custer wasn't on a rescue mission. Apples and oranges. The bottom line, is that if you have people on the ground, in trouble, you don't do NOTHING.
    Not to mention that Custer was a self-aggrandizing MacArthur type who idiotically underestimated his enemy even though he did have intelligence and advice that should have let him know more than he did.

    Or, as Sgt Major Plumley put it "Custer was a Pussy".
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    Re: Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, the solution was to do NOTHING?

    Totally inexcusable.
    Well Obama had a fundraiser to go to and didn't want to have dark circles under his half-white eyes.

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    Re: Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    Anybody remember how well that worked for Carter?

    If Obama sent tropps into a shredder and they got shredded, all y'all'd be squawking about THAT.
    Not true. I remember a short time after the Seals went in an got bin Laden the Seals were sent into northern Afghanistan on a rush rescue to try to assist/save some American troops which were trapped and under attack. During that foray, a helicopter crashed and several Seals and other service members were killed but the troops were saved in the process. I don't recall any specific negative reaction to that decision to send in a rescue force that didn't have time for planning and their actions saved lives even though some of the rescuers were lost. Rather than people "squawking" about it, those Seals were honored and the incident basically forgotten and never mentioned again while Obama continued to talk up the more successful bin Laden raid.

    There is far more honor in trying to save comrades and failing than in never even trying.
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    Re: Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability

    Quote Originally Posted by BMCM View Post
    The Israelis planned and trained before they went into Entebe.
    Sure they did, for 12 hours.

    How do you know there was a breakdown in Custer's chain of command?
    Because Benteen and Reno displayed cowardice on the battlefield, by not supporting Custer's attack, as they were ordered to do. I'm not sure what Reno's deal was, but Benteen willingly let those men die, because he had personal issues with Custer.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Not to mention that Custer was a self-aggrandizing MacArthur type who idiotically underestimated his enemy even though he did have intelligence and advice that should have let him know more than he did.

    Or, as Sgt Major Plumley put it "Custer was a Pussy".
    And the hubris for which Longstreet apparently shamed him at Appomattox ultimately led to his glory-seeking end.

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    Re: Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability

    Quote Originally Posted by DVSentinel View Post
    Not to mention that Custer was a self-aggrandizing MacArthur type who idiotically underestimated his enemy even though he did have intelligence and advice that should have let him know more than he did.

    Or, as Sgt Major Plumley put it "Custer was a Pussy".
    You've been watching too many movies. Don't get your historical info from movies. It's highly likely that you're being misled.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    And the hubris for which Longstreet apparently shamed him at Appomattox ultimately led to his glory-seeking end.
    I doubt that incident had anything to do with anything.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Those two were the closest people there, and they could not save steavens even when they did arive. The only thing that we could is help evacuate CIA building.
    2 specialists were able to save dozens of Americans in harm's way

    The Obama Administration couldn't provide them backup within 8 hours

    Nothing more needs to be said

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    Re: Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    With all the drivel you have been posting on this, some very outlandish. This one makes sense to me. I never had any problem with the judgment calls as to rescue operations or the lack there of and has said so many times in various posts. I would just like to know what the cover up, why this administration wanted to make everyone believe it was a video when everyone knew different. It is more out of curiosity than hostility. In my little mind it makes no sense.
    I suppose it doesn't make sense if you think it was a cover-up. I don't think it was, because on the 12th President Obama said in the Rose Garden it was an act of terror. Remember the the discussion between Romney and Obama at the debate about this? It makes sense if in fact the President is trying to misdirect the terrorists.

    Petraeus Says U.S. Tried to Avoid Tipping Off Terrorists After Libya Attack

    WASHINGTON David H. Petraeus, the former director of the Central Intelligence Agency, told lawmakers on Friday that classified intelligence reports revealed that the deadly assault on the American diplomatic mission in Libya was a terrorist attack, but that the administration refrained from saying it suspected that the perpetrators of the attack were Al Qaeda affiliates and sympathizers to avoid tipping off the groups.
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    Re: Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    I suppose it doesn't make sense if you think it was a cover-up. I don't think it was, because on the 12th President Obama said in the Rose Garden it was an act of terror. Remember the the discussion between Romney and Obama at the debate about this? It makes sense if in fact the President is trying to misdirect the terrorists.

    Petraeus Says U.S. Tried to Avoid Tipping Off Terrorists After Libya Attack
    Why did the original report get revised TWELVE times? Why did Rice tell the nation that it was all about a stupid internet video?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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