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    Re: Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Robert Gates appeared on CBS's Face The Nation on Sunday and pushed back on the critics of Obama's military. See the video on his appearance at the link .
    Gates, a Republican who was appointed by then-President George W. Bush in 2006 and agreed to stay through more than two years of President Obama's first term, repeatedly declined to criticize the policymakers who devised a response to the September 2012 attack on a U.S. diplomatic facility in Benghazi, Libya, that left four Americans dead, including the U.S. Ambassador to Libya, Chris Stevens.

    "Frankly, had I been in the job at the time, I think my decisions would have been just as theirs were," said Gates, now the chancellor of the College of William and Mary.

    "We don't have a ready force standing by in the Middle East, and so getting somebody there in a timely way would have been very difficult, if not impossible." he explained.

    Suggestions that we could have flown a fighter jet over the attackers to "scare them with the noise or something," Gates said, ignored the "number of surface to air missiles that have disappeared from [former Libyan leader] Qaddafi's arsenals."

    "I would not have approved sending an aircraft, a single aircraft, over Benghazi under those circumstances," he said.

    Another suggestion posed by some critics of the administration, to, as Gates said, "send some small number of special forces or other troops in without knowing what the environment is, without knowing what the threat is, without having any intelligence in terms of what is actually going on on the ground, would have been very dangerous."

    "It's sort of a cartoonish impression of military capabilities and military forces," he said. "The one thing that our forces are noted for is planning and preparation before we send people in harm's way, and there just wasn't time to do that."



    Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability - CBS News
    a good cartoonish headline from cbs news.

    to the highlight, that statement seems quite false given what we now know.

    the US people in benghazi at the consulate knew what the environment was, knew what the threat was and knew what was going on the ground.

    NO ONE LISTENED!!
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    Re: Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability

    Military people die all the time in training exercises. We'd better stop that training crap, too.

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    Re: Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability

    Quote Originally Posted by mtm1963 View Post
    a good cartoonish headline from cbs news.

    to the highlight, that statement seems quite false given what we now know.

    the US people in benghazi at the consulate knew what the environment was, knew what the threat was and knew what was going on the ground.

    NO ONE LISTENED!!
    I believe that the pentagon, defense department and its officals are in charge when it comes to the deployment of military forces. Funny thing is all the ire of these investigations is not aimed at them.

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    Re: Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    I believe that the pentagon, defense department and its officals are in charge when it comes to the deployment of military forces. Funny thing is all the ire of these investigations is not aimed at them.
    the investigation is trying to find out who made the decisions that involved the benghazi terrorist attack..... before, during and after the attack.
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    Re: Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability

    Quote Originally Posted by Samhain View Post
    Glad to hear that the US military is at a loss when dealing with unknowns.
    Not glad, but you make your point.

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    Re: Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    I believe that the pentagon, defense department and its officals are in charge when it comes to the deployment of military forces. Funny thing is all the ire of these investigations is not aimed at them.
    Do you really believe this?

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    Re: Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Robert Gates appeared on CBS's Face The Nation on Sunday and pushed back on the critics of Obama's military. See the video on his appearance at the link .

    Gates, a Republican who was appointed by then-President George W. Bush in 2006 and agreed to stay through more than two years of President Obama's first term, repeatedly declined to criticize the policymakers who devised a response to the September 2012 attack on a U.S. diplomatic facility in Benghazi, Libya, that left four Americans dead, including the U.S. Ambassador to Libya, Chris Stevens.

    "Frankly, had I been in the job at the time, I think my decisions would have been just as theirs were," said Gates, now the chancellor of the College of William and Mary.

    "We don't have a ready force standing by in the Middle East, and so getting somebody there in a timely way would have been very difficult, if not impossible." he explained.

    Suggestions that we could have flown a fighter jet over the attackers to "scare them with the noise or something," Gates said, ignored the "number of surface to air missiles that have disappeared from [former Libyan leader] Qaddafi's arsenals."

    "I would not have approved sending an aircraft, a single aircraft, over Benghazi under those circumstances," he said.

    Another suggestion posed by some critics of the administration, to, as Gates said, "send some small number of special forces or other troops in without knowing what the environment is, without knowing what the threat is, without having any intelligence in terms of what is actually going on on the ground, would have been very dangerous."

    "It's sort of a cartoonish impression of military capabilities and military forces," he said. "The one thing that our forces are noted for is planning and preparation before we send people in harm's way, and there just wasn't time to do that."



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    Re: Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability

    "We don't have a ready force standing by in the Middle East, and so getting somebody there in a timely way would have been very difficult, if not impossible." he explained.
    No Mr. Gates, what's "cartoonish" is the level of common sense applied toward keeping our embassy personnel safe.

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    Re: Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability

    How does this statement about ignorance of the tactical situation match up with statements that the situation was watched off and on in real time with drones?

    One is false or the other is.

    Way too much contradictory BS being circulated from various sources right now. Just a heads up but this kind of thing happening while hes part of the admin leadership doesnt exactly make him look any better.

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    Re: Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    No Mr. Gates, what's "cartoonish" is the level of common sense applied toward keeping our embassy personnel safe.
    It wasn't an embassy, it was a diplomatic compound. An Embassy tend to be better protected.
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