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    Re: Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability

    Quote Originally Posted by BMCM View Post
    So it would be ok with you if the Americans were part of that collateral damage
    I wouldn't be celebrating, but that s the nature of collateral damage. On 9/11, did you not support the order to shoot down any commercial airliner that did not immediately follow the grounding order...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Our missile guidance technology is a bit more advanced than you seem to think...
    Our missile guidance technology is beyond approach. We can program a cruise missile to fly down the street and go thru someones bedroom window, but the explosion would take out the whole block, if not more. So that missile would have probably taken out the Americans we were trying to save.
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    Re: Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    not when the enemy is 50 feet from your own men.
    LOL, you now have the intelligence available to know the distance of the attackers in feet?
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Using you "logic" (if one can call it that), close air support should never be provided to our troops on the ground. That's an insane position to take or defend...

    Close air support is generally done by helos or by what we called puff the magic dragon in VN and not fighter jets
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    Re: Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    I wouldn't be celebrating, but that s the nature of collateral damage. On 9/11, did you not support the order to shoot down any commercial airliner that did not immediately follow the grounding order...

    So you would be ok if the Americans were killed in that collateral damage? The other part has nothing to do with this thread, remember Custer?
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    Re: Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability

    Quote Originally Posted by BMCM View Post
    Our missile guidance technology is beyond approach. We can program a cruise missile to fly down the street and go thru someones bedroom window, but the explosion would take out the whole block, if not more. So that missile would have probably taken out the Americans we were trying to save.
    I don't believe Cruise missiles would have been a viable option due to just what you point out, but the attack profile of a hellfire can be selected at the time of fire, or with newer models, in flight...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    LOL, you now have the intelligence available to know the distance of the attackers in feet?
    no i was trying to make the point that you can't bomb the enemy if they are literally right next to your own men. it was a tactic employed in Stalingrad by the Russians, by placeing their frontlines right next to the germans in the city and fighting at close quarters, the germans could not use their airforce to bomb the russians without the risk of hitting their own men.

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    Re: Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability

    Quote Originally Posted by BMCM View Post
    So you would be ok if the Americans were killed in that collateral damage? The other part has nothing to do with this thread, remember Custer?
    It is germane as it related directly to acceptable level of collateral damage when we are under attack...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Good afternoon V1.1 - I find it remarkable the lengths to which people here will go to "rescue" Obama and Clinton but wouldn't lift a finger to save American assets on the ground in a hostile environment.
    But they are lifting their fingers, CJ! They're typing! Granted, it's not to offer sympathy to the families of the men who were murdered by cowardly unwashed thugs in Benghazi, but attempts to justify BHO's seeming lack of concern for the lives of our Embassy personnel and Seals who were waiting in vain for help that never came. I wonder if their opinion would be the same if one of their husbands, brothers or friends had been among those who died in Benghazi! To each his own opinion...but very sad indeed...

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    Re: Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    no i was trying to make the point that you can't bomb the enemy if they are literally right next to your own men. it was a tactic employed in Stalingrad by the Russians, by placeing their frontlines right next to the germans in the city and fighting at close quarters, the germans could not use their airforce to bomb the russians without the risk of hitting their own men.
    I believe the issue was defending against mortars and RPGs, neither of which are fired from that range unless it's a suicide mission of some sort...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
    Quote Originally Posted by James D Hill View Post
    I am for gay marriage because it ticks off Jesus freaks and social conservatives. Gays are also good voters because the vote for my side so I fight next to them.

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