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    Re: Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability

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    Well, you're far smarter than the former Secretary of Defense, so we bow to you superior wisdom on military matters.
    Smooch to you as well...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    No carrier group is stationed anywhere without adequate support. If the carrier was in port, the fighters were on land and could be ready to go within an hour or two If the carrier group were at sea, some are ready to go as soon almost immediately...
    then how would the fighters know what to do when they ever arrived? wait for someone on the ground to radio in the situation?

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    Re: Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability

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    Then, please tell me what a jet fighter can do in a situation like this. They can't pick out individual target with their 20mm, all they can do is rake the ground in front of them. The missiles can't be programed to only kill certain people. So please educate me on how a jet fighter would have been useful there?
    The missiles can be programmed on the fly to pick up a target lit up by a laser or any one of several other guidance options...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    We're not discussing other threads. We're here discussing this situation in which US citizens were under attack. Try to stay on topic...

    You're the one that brought up that some collateral damage was ok. I just pointed out that in those other threads people whined about collateral damage. But, we'll put that aside for now. How many collateral damage deaths is an acceptable number for you?
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    Re: Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    then how would the fighters know what to do when they ever arrived? wait for someone on the ground to radio in the situation?
    There was an ex SEAL on the ground lighting up the target(s)
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability

    Quote Originally Posted by BMCM View Post
    You're the one that brought up that some collateral damage was ok. I just pointed out that in those other threads people whined about collateral damage. But, we'll put that aside for now. How many collateral damage deaths is an acceptable number for you?
    Any amount when we are under attack...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    There was an ex SEAL on the ground lighting up the target(s)
    was he on the roof with the the two who were killed by mortar rounds?

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    Re: Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    Any amount when we are under attack...
    and if that colateral damage was the americans you were trying to save, but got caught in the explosions.

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    Re: Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability

    Quote Originally Posted by BMCM View Post
    You're the one that brought up that some collateral damage was ok. I just pointed out that in those other threads people whined about collateral damage. But, we'll put that aside for now. How many collateral damage deaths is an acceptable number for you?
    I have to say I find this question odd. We're talking about an attack on an American compound in the middle of the night. Do you think there were a lot of innocent women and children out sleepwalking at the time of the attack? By reports on the ground at the time there were hundreds of attackers outside the compound - I'm pretty sure none of them were innocent bystanders - no collateral damage there, just terrorist being sent home to Allah.
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    Re: Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    I suppose it doesn't make sense if you think it was a cover-up. I don't think it was, because on the 12th President Obama said in the Rose Garden it was an act of terror. Remember the the discussion between Romney and Obama at the debate about this? It makes sense if in fact the President is trying to misdirect the terrorists.

    Petraeus Says U.S. Tried to Avoid Tipping Off Terrorists After Libya Attack

    WASHINGTON — David H. Petraeus, the former director of the Central Intelligence Agency, told lawmakers on Friday that classified intelligence reports revealed that the deadly assault on the American diplomatic mission in Libya was a terrorist attack, but that the administration refrained from saying it suspected that the perpetrators of the attack were Al Qaeda affiliates and sympathizers to avoid tipping off the groups.
    What one would expect in an instance like this is the CIA taking out of the talking points all references to AQ, not the State Department. The rolls should have been reversed. It should have been the CIA trying to delete any reference to terrorist and AQ if this was right, not State. In case you haven't noticed, I have very little respect for State when it comes to any type of security. There is also a big difference in saying a video caused all of this than just refraining from not mentioning a particular AQ organization. A simple phrase like, "At this time we think a video caused a bunch of protesters to get angry and attack our consulate, we are still researching the event." Now that covers just about everything and it doesn't leave the perception if that is all it is of an administration purposely misleading the American Public. Sometimes perception matters more than reality, I have seen that more than a few times. I probably would believe the above if it was the CIA trying to get things deleted instead of vice versa. This tells me the CIA didn't care if the terrorist knew we knew who thay were and that it was they that attacked the consulate and not an angry mob. The CIA holds everything close to their vest, even if they don't need to. It is usually State that do not care and if there is a turf battle, it is on these grounds.

    Sometimes our intelligence community amazes me. They do come up with some pretty dumb stories and activities. But having the CIA being more lax on security and the State Department more strict seems nearly impossible to me in my experiences. I may be proved wrong on this, stranger things have happened and it may very well have something to do with intelligence or assets. As of now in my mind the perception is still there of State trying to protect their butt. Time will tell, most everything comes out, but not all. There is still quite a bit of stuff still classified from WWII.
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