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    Re: Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I didn't say I wouldn't want them to have 12 hours to plan and train. The fact is, our guys DIDN'T have 12 hours to plan and train and that's no excuse to to at least TRY.



    I didn't bring it up, someone else did. I was only pointing out the error in using Little Bighorn as an example.
    So how many troops would you have sent in? How would you have gotten them there? How would you have armed them?

    We'll let the Custer thing go, you obviously don't know what happened.
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    Re: Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability

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    A few well placed Hellfire missiles would probably would have dispersed the attackers fairly rapidly. It is somewhat clear that those fighting at the annex expected some sort of response, otherwise one of them would not have divulged his own location by "lighting up" the attackers...
    Absolutely, goddamned right!!!

    The fact that he actually laser painted a target means that he was TOLD that air-support was already inbound.
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    Re: Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    A commercial flight from London to Tripoli lasts about 3 1/2 hours. We had assets closer, and I'm sure our fighters in Italy fly a bit faster than commercial airliners. Good afternoon jcj...
    Good afternoon V1.1 - I find it remarkable the lengths to which people here will go to "rescue" Obama and Clinton but wouldn't lift a finger to save American assets on the ground in a hostile environment.
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    Re: Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    A whole 150 attackers?

    That's a company(+) size element. Are you aware that a SEAL team can field as much firepower as a company of light infantry? Not to mention, a SEAL team would have brought a level of training, discipline, experience, orginization and motivation to the fight that the attackers couldn't even come close to mathing up to.

    All the while, the slicks that inserted the SEAL team, would have probably been escorted by gunships, that would be raining fire and steel down on everything outside the peremiter.
    How many innocent men,women and children killed by this rain of bullets would be an acceptable number?
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    Re: Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability

    Quote Originally Posted by BMCM View Post
    How many innocent men,women and children killed by this rain of bullets would be an acceptable number?
    Who gives a **** when US citizens are under attack. There is collateral damage in any defensive action...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability

    Quote Originally Posted by BMCM View Post
    How many innocent men,women and children killed by this rain of bullets would be an acceptable number?
    Maybe President Drone has a standard number he uses.
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    Re: Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability

    Quote Originally Posted by Bronson View Post
    To defend and rescue Americans in harm's way

    Your posts are comical and embarrassing. Just stop.
    one of those killed was part of the backup. you know, the backup that payed a libyan plane to fly them to benghazi.

    there was nothing that could scramble imediatly to save them. no jets, no apaches.

    they only reinforcements close enough were the 6 man team, and they were needed to protect the embassy in Tripoli, and i highly doubt their handguns would have done any good against mortar shells.

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    Re: Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    one of those killed was part of the backup. you know, the backup that payed a libyan plane to fly them to benghazi.

    there was nothing that could scramble imediatly to save them. no jets, no apaches.

    they only reinforcements close enough were the 6 man team, and they were needed to protect the embassy in Tripoli, and i highly doubt their handguns would have done any good against mortar shells.
    Bull****! The Sixth Fleet is based in the Med. There were fighters available, but they were not scrambled...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    Re: Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability

    Quote Originally Posted by AlabamaPaul View Post
    A commercial flight from London to Tripoli lasts about 3 1/2 hours. We had assets closer, and I'm sure our fighters in Italy fly a bit faster than commercial airliners. Good afternoon jcj...

    What good do you think a fighter jet would have done? The best they could do is make a low pass with their 20mm guns and maybe fire off a couple of missiles.
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    Re: Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    one of those killed was part of the backup. you know, the backup that payed a libyan plane to fly them to benghazi.

    there was nothing that could scramble imediatly to save them. no jets, no apaches.

    they only reinforcements close enough were the 6 man team, and they were needed to protect the embassy in Tripoli, and i highly doubt their handguns would have done any good against mortar shells.
    Oh, one more thing, all backup was carried out against orders to stand down. These individuals were willing to risk not only their careers, but their lives, for their fellow countrymen. It's shameful that others in government were not...
    I don't often change my signature, but this was just too over the top to let anyone forget with what this country is up against...
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    I am for gay marriage because it ticks off Jesus freaks and social conservatives. Gays are also good voters because the vote for my side so I fight next to them.

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