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    Re: Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    I suppose it doesn't make sense if you think it was a cover-up. I don't think it was, because on the 12th President Obama said in the Rose Garden it was an act of terror. Remember the the discussion between Romney and Obama at the debate about this? It makes sense if in fact the President is trying to misdirect the terrorists.

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    No, it makes no sense to send out the Ambassador to the UN and for Obama, two weeks later at the UN, to be claiming the attack was the result of a video, and then you have SOS Clinton telling families at Andrews AFB that the have the producer of the video in custody when the bodies were returned to the States...
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    Re: Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Sure they did, for 12 hours.



    Because Benteen and Reno displayed cowardice on the battlefield, by not supporting Custer's attack, as they were ordered to do. I'm not sure what Reno's deal was, but Benteen willingly let those men die, because he had personal issues with Custer.
    12 hours of planning and training is a whole lot different then just going in guns blazing. So why wouldn't you want our troops to have the same 12 hours to plan and train?

    What are your sources on Banteen and Reno?
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    Re: Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    I suppose it doesn't make sense if you think it was a cover-up. I don't think it was, because on the 12th President Obama said in the Rose Garden it was an act of terror. Remember the the discussion between Romney and Obama at the debate about this? It makes sense if in fact the President is trying to misdirect the terrorists.

    Petraeus Says U.S. Tried to Avoid Tipping Off Terrorists After Libya Attack
    President Obama also said that the Colorado theatre shootings were an act of terror. Are you also going to claim that the President was claiming the Colorado theatre shootings was a terrorist act? There is a difference, even if you're not prepared to acknowledge it.
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    Re: Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Why did the original report get revised TWELVE times? Why did Rice tell the nation that it was all about a stupid internet video?
    The 12 edits revealed a turf war between the CIA and State. The video was the attempt to misdirect the terrorists.

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    Re: Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability

    Quote Originally Posted by BMCM View Post
    12 hours of planning and training is a whole lot different then just going in guns blazing. So why wouldn't you want our troops to have the same 12 hours to plan and train?
    So, you support the decision of doing NOTHING?

    What are your sources on Banteen and Reno?
    I've used multiple sources to form that opinion and I'm not going to get into all that crap, because it isn't germane to the topic of the thread.
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    Re: Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    The 12 edits revealed a turf war between the CIA and State. The video was the attempt to misdirect the terrorists.
    Oh really?!? Lieing about the video was some ingenious master plan?

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    Re: Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    Rushing in guns blazing is what Custer did at Little Bighorn, look what happened to him.

    Besides Benghazi was not the only place causing a commotion during the week of the attack.
    You are describing a rush with guns blazing, not me. I'm saying it was inexcusable to throw up their hands and do nothing. Period.

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    Re: Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability

    My problems with this situation are

    1-What idiot in charge couldn't figure out that 9-11 was a big day for islamists.

    2-What idiot in charge couldn't remember that the USA doesn't leave soldiers behind??

    DISGUSTING !!

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    Re: Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    So, you support the decision of doing NOTHING?



    I've used multiple sources to form that opinion and I'm not going to get into all that crap, because it isn't germane to the topic of the thread.
    I wasn't there and the investigation is still ongoing so I have no idea who did or did not do what. I answered your question so man up and answer mine:

    So why wouldn't you want our troops to have the same 12 hours to plan and train?

    If you didn't think it was germane to the thread then why did you bring it up? What are your sources on Banteen and Reno?
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    Re: Gates: Some Benghazi critics have "cartoonish" view of military capability

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Not true. I remember a short time after the Seals went in an got bin Laden the Seals were sent into northern Afghanistan on a rush rescue to try to assist/save some American troops which were trapped and under attack. During that foray, a helicopter crashed and several Seals and other service members were killed but the troops were saved in the process. I don't recall any specific negative reaction to that decision to send in a rescue force that didn't have time for planning and their actions saved lives even though some of the rescuers were lost. Rather than people "squawking" about it, those Seals were honored and the incident basically forgotten and never mentioned again while Obama continued to talk up the more successful bin Laden raid.

    There is far more honor in trying to save comrades and failing than in never even trying.
    So in Afghanistan, where we have significant forces in place, hence the quick backup.

    Not the same thing.

    And it was a "success".
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