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    Re: State Department disputes diplomatís charges of retaliation

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Mr. Hicks voluntarily decided not to return to Libya so the term doesn't apply. He decided to remain in the states because of of family. But there is no way he could perform his former job while he is here. I am sure he thinks in his mind that in some way he was wronged and therefore demoted. So while I said earlier he lied, I have now decided to back away from that assessment. I think he is a good man and it too bad this situation happen.
    Skip to the 1:15 mark and see if this clears things up for you:


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    Re: State Department disputes diplomatís charges of retaliation

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Mr. Hicks voluntarily decided not to return to Libya so the term doesn't apply. He decided to remain in the states because of of family. But there is no way he could perform his former job while he is here. I am sure he thinks in his mind that in some way he was wronged and therefore demoted. So while I said earlier he lied, I have now decided to back away from that assessment. I think he is a good man and it too bad this situation happen.
    he states what his job is now is a demotion.

    usually when someone gets demoted they have less supervision over others, less influence on decisions made and fewer responsibilities.
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    Re: State Department disputes diplomatís charges of retaliation

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    Skip to the 1:15 mark and see if this clears things up for you:

    Is it sad that my response to this is:

    Damn that piss and vinegar attitude is smokin' hot.

    On a more serious note though when she puts it like that is sounds incredibly convincing.
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    Re: State Department disputes diplomatís charges of retaliation

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    Skip to the 1:15 mark and see if this clears things up for you:

    Robert Gates was President Bush's Secretary of Defense.

    Robert Gates Defends Obama Military Response To Benghazi

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    Re: State Department disputes diplomatís charges of retaliation

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Robert Gates was President Bush's Secretary of Defense.

    Robert Gates Defends Obama Military Response To Benghazi
    obama's too!!
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    Re: State Department disputes diplomatís charges of retaliation

    Quote Originally Posted by mtm1963 View Post
    obama's too!!
    That's correct, Obama recognized Gates was a good guy

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    Re: State Department disputes diplomatís charges of retaliation

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    That's correct, Obama recognized Gates was a good guy
    btw, gates wasn't in the loop at the tme. in fact he was retired!
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    Re: State Department disputes diplomatís charges of retaliation

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Robert Gates was President Bush's Secretary of Defense.

    Robert Gates Defends Obama Military Response To Benghazi
    That's all you got from that?

    Really?

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    Re: State Department disputes diplomatís charges of retaliation

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    That's all you got from that?

    Really?
    You mentioned the 1:15 mark and that's she was talking about she was also wrong when she said Mr. Hicks was demoted, it was his choice not go back to Libya.

    Robert Gates Criticizes Conservatives' "Cartoonish Impression" Of Military Support For Benghazi | Blog | Media Matters for America

    GATES: I think the one place where I might be able to say something useful has to do with some of the talk of the military response. And I listened to the testimony of both Secretary Panetta and General Dempsey, and frankly had I been in the job at the time, I think that my decisions would have been just as theirs were. We don't have a ready force standing by in the Middle East, despite all the turmoil that's going on with planes on strip alert, troops ready to deploy at a moment's notice. And so getting someone there in a timely way would have been very difficult if not impossible.

    And frankly I've heard, well, why didn't you just fly a fighter jet over there to scare 'em with the noise or something. Given the number of surface to air missiles that have disappeared from Qaddafi's arsenals I would not have approved sending an aircraft, a single aircraft, over Benghazi under those circumstances.

    And with respect to sending in Special Forces or a small group of people to try and provide help, based on everything I've read people really didn't know what was going on in Benghazi contemporaneously, and to send some small number of Special Forces or other troops in without knowing what the environment is, without knowing what the threat is, without having any intelligence in terms of what is actually going on on the ground, I think would have been very dangerous and personally I would not have approved that because we just don't -- it's sort of a cartoonish impression of military capabilities and military forces. The one thing our forces are noted for is planning and preparation before we send people in harm's way, and there just wasn't time.

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    Re: State Department disputes diplomatís charges of retaliation

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    That's all you got from that?

    Really?
    grim, gates is a distraction.

    gates' comment are NOT relevant to Benghazi.
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