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    Re: State Department disputes diplomat’s charges of retaliation

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    And what evidence do you have that he is lying? Why would he lie about being demoted. And exactly what did he bring on himself??
    here is why i am certain that he is lying
    as a federal employee, to be demoted would require paperwork effecting said demotion
    if he had such paperwork, he would have introduced it
    he has not done so
    which means he lied about any demotion
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    Re: State Department disputes diplomat’s charges of retaliation

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Hicks has said he was demoted but it isn't true, it was his choice to come back to the sates. Pity party anyone.



    The State Department on Wednesday rejected charges by Gregory B. Hicks, the former deputy ambassador at the U.S. Embassy in Libya, that he was demoted and treated unfairly after he criticized the department’s performance during and after the September terrorist attack in Benghazi.

    “The Department has not and will not retaliate against Mr. Hicks,” said Patrick Ventrell, acting deputy spokesman for the State Department.

    In House testimony, Hicks said that despite receiving high praise for his performance during the Benghazi crisis from President Obama and then-Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, he was later given a “blistering critique of my management style” by Elizabeth Jones, the acting assistant secretary for the Near East.

    Hicks said family concerns were the “overriding” reason for his decision not to return to Libya. But he said he also felt that “I would never be comfortable working there” after the criticism. When he voluntarily withdrew from his assignment in Tripoli, Hicks said, he was given a State Department job in Washington that he considered a demotion.

    Hicks’s decision took him out of the annual assignment cycle, and difficulty in finding a suitable assignment was “not uncommon” in such situations, Ventrell said.

    “However, the Department worked with him to find a suitable temporary assignment and succeeded,” he said. “Mr. Hicks still receives the same salary and has the same employment status and rank as before. Per standard procedure, Mr. Hicks recently submitted a preference list for his next assignment and is under consideration along with other Foreign Service employees.”

    State Department disputes diplomat’s charges of retaliation - The Washington Post
    As if the State Department is going to admit to any wrong doing...LMAO!!!! Surely they would never lie about it.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: State Department disputes diplomat’s charges of retaliation

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    here is why i am certain that he is lying
    as a federal employee, to be demoted would require paperwork effecting said demotion
    if he had such paperwork, he would have introduced it
    he has not done so
    which means he lied about any demotion
    That's your evidence? really?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: State Department disputes diplomat’s charges of retaliation

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    All Hicks has to do is give written permission for the State Department to release his personnel records to the press, and they can see for themselves whether he was "demoted", or is still at the same rank and pay as he was before. Simple, really. One wonders why he wouldn't do that.
    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    here is why i am certain that he is lying
    as a federal employee, to be demoted would require paperwork effecting said demotion
    if he had such paperwork, he would have introduced it
    he has not done so
    which means he lied about any demotion
    most of you don't understand how promotions and demotions work in government jobs. for some one to get officially demoted in high ranking jobs in the government first a hearing needs to be conducted and a decision is made and that decision can be appeared, What happened to Hicks was not an official demotion the state dept is smart enough not to do that because then they would have to give an official reason why and conduct a hearing, what happened to hicks is called being black balled an unofficial demotion an a embarrassing reassignment to a menial desk job below his qualifications with the same pay. it wont show up on his record as a demotion just a reassignment
    Last edited by trfjr; 05-12-13 at 01:46 AM.

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    Re: State Department disputes diplomat’s charges of retaliation

    Quote Originally Posted by mtm1963 View Post
    the full text of the conversation, not just a snip.
    Speaking of which... where can one find the full transcripts for the hearing?

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    Re: State Department disputes diplomat’s charges of retaliation

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That's your evidence? really?
    absolutely
    but you are welcome to show us any evidence of a demotion in civil service ranks where that personnel action was not documented in writing
    until you show us that a demotion has ever happened without the paper work, i stand on my statement

    so, prove me wrong
    i challenge you to do so
    and we all know you will not accept that challenge
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
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    Re: State Department disputes diplomat’s charges of retaliation

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    absolutely
    but you are welcome to show us any evidence of a demotion in civil service ranks where that personnel action was not documented in writing
    until you show us that a demotion has ever happened without the paper work, i stand on my statement

    so, prove me wrong
    i challenge you to do so
    and we all know you will not accept that challenge
    Hicks never said he received an official demotion he said "effectively demoted" and i will refer you to my last post to help explain the rest

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    most of you don't understand how promotions and demotions work in government jobs. for some one to get officially demoted in high ranking jobs in the government first a hearing needs to be conducted and a decision is made and that decision can be appeared, What happened to Hicks was not an official demotion the state dept is smart enough not to do that because then they would have to give an official reason why and conduct a hearing, what happened to hicks is called being black balled an unofficial demotion an a embarrassing reassignment to a menial desk job below his qualifications with the same pay. it wont show up on his record as a demotion just a reassignment

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    Re: State Department disputes diplomat’s charges of retaliation

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    Hicks never said he received an official demotion he said "effectively demoted" and i will refer you to my last post to help explain the rest
    what we know is that hicks was NOT demoted
    so much for the alleged 'retaliation'
    hicks is a disgruntled employee who is not telling the truth when he insists he was demoted
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: State Department disputes diplomat’s charges of retaliation

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    what we know is that hicks was NOT demoted
    so much for the alleged 'retaliation'
    hicks is a disgruntled employee who is not telling the truth when he insists he was demoted
    And i like how you conveniently ignore the rest of the explanation until you address that you have no argument

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    Re: State Department disputes diplomat’s charges of retaliation

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    You don't understand what Mr. Hicks is saying? It's not out of text.
    yep.

    they cut out the end of his comments.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fielcGbaBY4
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