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    Re: State Department disputes diplomatís charges of retaliation

    Quote Originally Posted by mtm1963 View Post
    out of context quotes.
    This is out of context??

    REP. SCOTT DESJARLAIS (R-TN): So when you came back to the United States, were you planning on going back to Libya?

    MR. HICKS: I was. I fully intended to do so.

    REP. DESJARLAIS: And what do you think happened?

    MR. HICKS: Based on the criticism that I received, I felt that if I went back, I would never be comfortable working there. And in addition, my family really didn't want me to go back. We'd endured a year of separation when I was in Afghanistan 2006 and 2007. That was the overriding factor. So I voluntarily curtailed -- I accepted an offer of what's called a no-fault curtailment. That means that there's -- there would be no criticism of my departure of post, no negative repercussions. And in fact Ambassador Pope, when he made the offer to everyone in Tripoli when he arrived -- I mean Charge Pope -- when he arrived, he indicated that people could expect that they would get a good onward assignment out of that..
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    Re: State Department disputes diplomatís charges of retaliation

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    This is out of context??

    REP. SCOTT DESJARLAIS (R-TN): So when you came back to the United States, were you planning on going back to Libya?

    MR. HICKS: I was. I fully intended to do so.

    REP. DESJARLAIS: And what do you think happened?

    MR. HICKS: Based on the criticism that I received, I felt that if I went back, I would never be comfortable working there. And in addition, my family really didn't want me to go back. We'd endured a year of separation when I was in Afghanistan 2006 and 2007. That was the overriding factor. So I voluntarily curtailed -- I accepted an offer of what's called a no-fault curtailment. That means that there's -- there would be no criticism of my departure of post, no negative repercussions. And in fact Ambassador Pope, when he made the offer to everyone in Tripoli when he arrived -- I mean Charge Pope -- when he arrived, he indicated that people could expect that they would get a good onward assignment out of that..
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    the full text of the conversation, not just a snip.
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    Re: State Department disputes diplomatís charges of retaliation

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Okay. Everyone who says the State department demoted them because of what they said about Bengazi should release their personnel records if the State Department denies it ever happened. Satisfied?
    ask it of one person, ask it of the others too.
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    Re: State Department disputes diplomatís charges of retaliation

    Quote Originally Posted by mtm1963 View Post
    ask it of one person, ask it of the others too.
    I just agreed with you. Hicks says he was demoted. DOS says he wasn't, and retains the same rank and salary. If anyone else claims to have been demoted because of speaking out against Bengazi while the DOS denies it happened, they too should prove their allegations. Or STFU.

    My position is completely consistent. Yours, however, makes no sense whatsoever. Anyway, I'm done here. These discussions are never about issues, they always end up being partisian finger-pointing bitch sessions. Useless waste of time!

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    Re: State Department disputes diplomatís charges of retaliation

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    All Hicks has to do is give written permission for the State Department to release his personnel records to the press, and they can see for themselves whether he was "demoted", or is still at the same rank and pay as he was before. Simple, really. One wonders why he wouldn't do that.
    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    Okay. Everyone who says the State department demoted them because of what they said about Bengazi should release their personnel records if the State Department denies it ever happened. Satisfied?
    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    I just agreed with you. Hicks says he was demoted. DOS says he wasn't, and retains the same rank and salary. If anyone else claims to have been demoted because of speaking out against Bengazi while the DOS denies it happened, they too should prove their allegations. Or STFU.

    My position is completely consistent. Yours, however, makes no sense whatsoever. Anyway, I'm done here. These discussions are never about issues, they always end up being partisian finger-pointing bitch sessions. Useless waste of time!
    so you deem these posts as being consistent? OK!
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    Re: State Department disputes diplomatís charges of retaliation

    Quote Originally Posted by DiAnna View Post
    I just agreed with you. Hicks says he was demoted. DOS says he wasn't, and retains the same rank and salary. If anyone else claims to have been demoted because of speaking out against Bengazi while the DOS denies it happened, they too should prove their allegations. Or STFU.

    My position is completely consistent. Yours, however, makes no sense whatsoever. Anyway, I'm done here. These discussions are never about issues, they always end up being partisian finger-pointing bitch sessions. Useless waste of time!
    Well, it all boils down to creditability and motive.
    Mr Hicks has not given any one any reason to question his creditability and what was his motive? what does he have to gain for not telling the truth? The Obama administration has given many reasons to question its credibility and has many motives to demote Hicks
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    Re: State Department disputes diplomatís charges of retaliation

    Quote Originally Posted by mtm1963 View Post
    the full text of the conversation, not just a snip.
    You don't understand what Mr. Hicks is saying? It's not out of text.

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    Re: State Department disputes diplomatís charges of retaliation

    Quote Originally Posted by mtm1963 View Post
    out of context quotes.
    What do you expect? It's from Media Matters.

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    Re: State Department disputes diplomatís charges of retaliation

    Quote Originally Posted by Grim17 View Post
    What do you expect? It's from Media Matters.
    Here's the quote, let me know if you believe it's out-of-context.

    REP. SCOTT DESJARLAIS (R-TN): So when you came back to the United States, were you planning on going back to Libya?

    MR. HICKS: I was. I fully intended to do so.

    REP. DESJARLAIS: And what do you think happened?

    MR. HICKS: Based on the criticism that I received, I felt that if I went back, I would never be comfortable working there. And in addition, my family really didn't want me to go back. We'd endured a year of separation when I was in Afghanistan 2006 and 2007. That was the overriding factor. So I voluntarily curtailed -- I accepted an offer of what's called a no-fault curtailment. That means that there's -- there would be no criticism of my departure of post, no negative repercussions. And in fact Ambassador Pope, when he made the offer to everyone in Tripoli when he arrived -- I mean Charge Pope -- when he arrived, he indicated that people could expect that they would get a good onward assignment out of that..

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    Re: State Department disputes diplomatís charges of retaliation

    Quote Originally Posted by mtm1963 View Post
    out of context quotes.
    Full video:

    Here.

    So it becomes pretty obvious why Media Matters did not quote the whole thing. He agreed not to go back, he did not agree to accept the demotion.
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