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    Re: State Department disputes diplomatís charges of retaliation

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    False, and obtusely so.
    then i look forward to seeing the paperwork which always accompanies a demotion
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    Re: State Department disputes diplomatís charges of retaliation

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    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill
    Yeah you said that earlier.

    And then I pointed out that since Hicks had never said he was lowered by paygrade, but only demoted by billet (which requires no paperwork) then this claim by yours that he was lying was either A) uninformed (which, given how you identify yourself, is unlikely) or B) a deliberate lie in the form of a strawman smear on Hicks in an attempt to discredit him.

    As I recall, I asked you to explain which one it was, and you never responded. Huh. Wonder why that is....

    hicks said he was demoted
    and by the absence of paperwork to that effect, it must be accepted that no demotion happened
    which makes hicks a liar
    Hicks said he was demoted by billet, which requires no paperwork. Are you saying that you are unaware of this and so the proper answer is option is "A) uninformed" ?

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    Re: State Department disputes diplomatís charges of retaliation

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    False, and obtusely so.
    Yeah, Bubba is in a bit of a bind here. Sort of like the earlier point where they wanted to say he was lying about being demoted, but only testifying because he was disgruntled from being demoted.

    Truly the need to protect the administration by smearing what appears to be a dedicated civil servant who put his life on the line for his country here is... well, 'distasteful' is probably the best word that won't get me censored.

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    Re: State Department disputes diplomatís charges of retaliation

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Yeah, Bubba is in a bit of a bind here. Sort of like the earlier point where they wanted to say he was lying about being demoted, but only testifying because he was disgruntled from being demoted.

    Truly the need to protect the administration by smearing what appears to be a dedicated civil servant who put his life on the line for his country here is... well, 'distasteful' is probably the best word that won't get me censored.
    there is no smear
    it is obvious to anyone who wants to see the truth that hicks is lying
    as a civil servant, had he been demoted in ANY way, there would be a massive paper trail to document that action
    and hicks would have produced said paperwork to document the harassment/intimidation
    that he did not tells us hicks is lying
    as usual, the reich wing, and its propaganda machine, have nothing factual to offer
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: State Department disputes diplomatís charges of retaliation

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    Re: State Department disputes diplomatís charges of retaliation

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    then i look forward to seeing the paperwork which always accompanies a demotion
    As was already pointed out to you by another poster, "demotion" as commonly used in the Foreign Service need not (and usually does not) refer to a formal reduction in grade. It refers to a reduction in responsibilities, prestige and prospects. As a veteran of nearly 34 years in the federal service, I can assure you that it's just as real without the formality of paperwork.
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    Re: State Department disputes diplomatís charges of retaliation

    Strawman.jpg

    The Republicans are coming at the Obama Administration with an army of strawmen. It'll be quite the bonfire when its all over but, sadly for them, this straw man lies bleeding on the floor and won't make it to the party.

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    Re: State Department disputes diplomatís charges of retaliation

    Quote Originally Posted by Napoleon View Post

    The Republicans are coming at the Obama Administration with an army of strawmen. It'll be quite the bonfire when its all over but, sadly for them, this straw man lies bleeding on the floor and won't make it to the party.
    WAPO is not the Republicans



    Read em and weep

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    Re: State Department disputes diplomatís charges of retaliation

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    As was already pointed out to you by another poster, "demotion" as commonly used in the Foreign Service need not (and usually does not) refer to a formal reduction in grade. It refers to a reduction in responsibilities, prestige and prospects. As a veteran of nearly 34 years in the federal service, I can assure you that it's just as real without the formality of paperwork.
    pity that after 34 years you do not understand what a demotion consists of within your own organization
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: State Department disputes diplomatís charges of retaliation

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    pity that after 34 years you do not understand what a demotion consists of within your own organization

    Got it. You're not a serious discussion partner. Thanks for playing.
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