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    Re: AP Exclusive: IRS knew tea party targeted in 2011

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Actually we have little knowledge of what Koch brothers have as slush funds anymore than we do of Union slush funds. But the right loves to say there are. I saw The sunday talk shows I didn't see an uproar but then again I am not a right wing leaner. Funny we go from Union slush funds to comparing Koch to Soros, not a convincing argument... 'they do it too!'
    Same can be stated for George Soros. But I am not up in arms about how rich people spend their money. That's all you.

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    Many groups can be very ahhh discrete on who gave how much, super pacs are fun things they can accept money as a 501(c)[4] from non profits and not have to disclose who donated what. the non Profit as like a money launderer.
    Supreme Court ruled that legal. IRS can't do **** about it and for the IRS to ask for a list of donors is illegal (a crime).

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    The astroturf label sticks because it is true, take FreedomWorks. Half it's 2012 haul came from one man, Richard Stephenson. 94% came from big gift donors and by using the non profit many names can be hidden.
    Astroturf applies to a few and the term Tea Party was hijacked by the Bachmann's and Koch's of the Republican party. The Tea Party I was involved in started in 2007. It came from Ron Paul supporters, people who had no "social" agenda. Freedomworks started in 2004 and was one of those that hijacked the movement. So they aren't on my "friends" list but it doesn't matter where the got their money to me and the law allow for discrete donations in 501(c)(4)s. It's the law of the land since Citizen United case. So deal with it.


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    The problem as many see it is by using the non profit tax sheild astro turf organizations can effectively hide who gives how much and is the organization a true grass roots or astro-turf outfit.
    When it comes to bud nipping the GOP fillibustered the attempt to reform 'dark money'. Astro-turf is safe for now....
    Citizen's United case. The ACLU and Citizens United | American Civil Liberties Union

    Can we go after Moveon.org? Since Linda Pritzker and George Soros are the two who paid $5 million to start it up. How about the Tides Foundation? George Soros loves to fund that. ACORN as well? Since it's funded by money from Tide Foundation and it's former CEO Drummond Pike who covered up the fraud that took place there. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/17/us/17acorn.html
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    Re: AP Exclusive: IRS knew tea party targeted in 2011

    Oh no doubt the proper hands will be slapped by whoever, but the point is it wouldn't be out of line to check after a series of reports that astro-turf organizations were skirting the tax laws. In today's world Al Capone could make a good case of IRS harassment!

    I have no heartburn on how the very rich spend their money, just they should be open and honest about it. An Organization like tea party Patriots getting 1 mil from an anonymous donor isn't a grass roots movement.

    I'm not defending the IRS, just admiring the wave it caused in 'conservative' circles... is funny how Soros gets drug out to balance dozens of wealthy 'conservative' political manipulators.

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    Re: AP Exclusive: IRS knew tea party targeted in 2011

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Oh no doubt the proper hands will be slapped by whoever, but the point is it wouldn't be out of line to check after a series of reports that astro-turf organizations were skirting the tax laws. In today's world Al Capone could make a good case of IRS harassment!

    I have no heartburn on how the very rich spend their money, just they should be open and honest about it. An Organization like tea party Patriots getting 1 mil from an anonymous donor isn't a grass roots movement.

    I'm not defending the IRS, just admiring the wave it caused in 'conservative' circles... is funny how Soros gets drug out to balance dozens of wealthy 'conservative' political manipulators.
    No you arent defending it, you are excusing it. By pushing the point that conservative organizations are not honest, you are lessening the wrongdoing on the part of the IRS. Its called deflection and its obvious. The Capone name drop? Cmon. The IRS should not be conducting tax investigations based upon political affiliation....PERIOD. End of story. Done.

    There are no excuses for this kind of action, its a fundamental threat to political freedom and affiliation. Its part of what got articles of impeachment written up for Nixon. When you can admit that this was flat wrong and nothing excuses it, we can talk. If you cant, you are just another partisan carrying water.

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    Re: AP Exclusive: IRS knew tea party targeted in 2011

    Quote Originally Posted by PeteEU View Post
    I dont see the problem.. any organisation that gets tax exemption should be the constant target of the IRS to see if they abuse the tax exemption rules.
    Very very true. I'd rather there not be any tax exempt status at all but in this case, partisan ideology should not be the criterea for which to decide who to and who not to investigate.
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    Re: AP Exclusive: IRS knew tea party targeted in 2011

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    Why do you believe this would be better?
    Treasury is responsible for managing the country's financial resources. It seems fitting they manage the input as well. Who would YOU suggest?

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