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Republicans raising money off Benghazi effort

Unfortunately they also never died off. The coverage they garnered just disappeared when society realized they were complete and total idiots. We just have to bide time until our wonderful news organizations realize this yet again.

8 months ago, they were all about Obama's birth certificate. Today? Not a peep. I predict in 3 months nobody will even remember Benghazi and the Benghazists will have too much egg on their face. So far they can't even get past what's impeachable about the government giving a version of events which change nothing about what actually happened in the event. All they care about is trying to drag down HRC. Which, you know, just shows how chicken **** scared they are of Hillary.
 
8 months ago, they were all about Obama's birth certificate. Today? Not a peep. I predict in 3 months nobody will even remember Benghazi and the Benghazists will have too much egg on their face. So far they can't even get past what's impeachable about the government giving a version of events which change nothing about what actually happened in the event. All they care about is trying to drag down HRC. Which, you know, just shows how chicken **** scared they are of Hillary.

What's getting lost in all this bull**** Republican noise machine claptrap is the fact that we need to actually find out where the breakdown was. If Issa gave a damn about that he would be using the hearings to go through the chain of communication to find out what communications breakdowns there were, who actually said what and why was any assistance too far away and how to remedy that for the future.

Doesn't seem to be any of that. Just: "ZOMG!!!!!111!!!!! something happened and Obama and Hillary are to blame.... we just need to draw the lines and where there aren't any lines to be drawn, we'll just scream even louder that they actually do exist."
 
What's getting lost in all this bull**** Republican noise machine claptrap is the fact that we need to actually find out where the breakdown was. If Issa gave a damn about that he would be using the hearings to go through the chain of communication to find out what communications breakdowns there were, who actually said what and why was any assistance too far away and how to remedy that for the future.

Doesn't seem to be any of that. Just: "ZOMG!!!!!111!!!!! something happened and Obama and Hillary are to blame.... we just need to draw the lines and where there aren't any lines to be drawn, we'll just scream even louder that they actually do exist."

That's what bothers me most about this. They're not even giving a rat's ass about the people who died. They are showing ZERO concern for the safety of others. They're not even arguing for an apology to the YouTube director guy. They are doing NOTHING which helps anyone in any way, except their own political party.

All they want to do is score political points.
 
8 months ago, they were all about Obama's birth certificate

who?

abc?

Exclusive: Benghazi Talking Points Underwent 12 Revisions, Scrubbed of Terror Reference - ABC News

cbs?

Three more officials to testify about Benghazi attacks - CBS News

cnn?

Doomed Libya ambassador: 'We're under attack' - CNN.com

bbc?

BBC News - After Benghazi revelations, heads will roll

national journal?

Scrubbing the Truth from Benghazi - NationalJournal.com

nyt?

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/09/u...count-from-libya-of-benghazi-attack.html?_r=0

wapo?

At Benghazi hearing, State Dept. officials challenge administration review of attacks - The Washington Post

i've got a lot more if you need em

I predict in 3 months nobody

but you're demonstrably out of the loop

why would anyone who, y'know, actually reads the news and therefore truly knows what's going on listen to a linkless lug like you

ie, if you linked more it would force you to know what you're talking about

party on, be proud, represent

seeya at the hearings, homer, they're gonna go on forever
 
So you think we should not have gone after Bin Laden and Associates in Afghanistan? Of course you don't. You must be of French descent.

That brings up yet another of Bush's mistakes, failing to get Bin Laden in Afghanistan. Now there's a great topic for a hearing. Why would he leave the hunt for America's most wanted man to a bunch of towel heads? Talk about incompetence. No President could ever top that for dereliction of duty.
 
My logical ability is just fine. Republicans claim they want "justice" for those in Libya. Democrats claim they want "justice" for those in Connecticut. If you choose to ignore the facts, I cannot help you.

Typical deflection. You don't want to examine what happened in Libya so you talk about Connecticut. And yet, you bring up "Democrats claim they want "justice"". Who? What Democrats?

You accuse me of ignoring facts...I applaud the Republicans for searching for the facts.

I accuse you of raising strawmen...you raise more.

Go figure.
 
Typical deflection. You don't want to examine what happened in Libya so you talk about Connecticut.
Uhh, nothing was being deflected in my statement, I was responding to someone else's "deflection", when they mentioned Democrats raising money "off a classroom of dead 6 year olds". Seriously, is it too much to ask you to actually read what you're posting to? Just once, I'd like to see you actually show some knowledge of the conversation when you reply to me.
 
It is just like gerrymandering. When the Republican's gerrymandered Texas after the 2010 census, the Democrats cried high crimes and misdemeanors and accused the Republicans of jury rigging elections. Then the democrats happily gerrymandered Illinois it was the republicans turn to cry high crimes and misdemeanors and jury rigging elections. As long as you have people that believe it is more important to be Republican or Democrat than an American, these things will continue to go on and America as a country will continue to suffer.

Sanity in some of these discussions is like a an oasis in the desert.

How can everyone on either of the two sides find hypocrisy so easily and never realize they are hypocrites?

I try to avoid it personally, but I would expect everyone would say that, and yet, here we are, "they did worse".

I don't think people are capable of even being honest with themselves anymore.
 
That brings up yet another of Bush's mistakes, failing to get Bin Laden in Afghanistan. Now there's a great topic for a hearing. Why would he leave the hunt for America's most wanted man to a bunch of towel heads? Talk about incompetence. No President could ever top that for dereliction of duty.

As the casual observer of minimal acuity will have long ago noticed, the removal of a largely sidelined Bin Laden accomplished very little.
 
I thought it was stupid to whine because people used an actual gun incident to promote the dangers of guns. Seriously, what other way can one promote the dangers of guns without pointing out the deaths and tragedies associated with them. It was not like people wanted the deaths of those in Sandy hook or other places to happen. I guess the same could apply to benghazi if it were actually about the dead people and demanding solutions for state department people serving in dangerous areas. Where i can say people who want gun control really want lives to be saved and want gun violence to stop, I cannot say that people actually give a damn about the dead state department people in benghazi. No, the attacks on benghazi are really about obama and hillary.

You look at the whole benghazi investigation and it is all about how can we blame Obama and hillary for this. No one is going on about the dangers state department people have had to endure. No one is worried that this is certainly not the first or most bloody incident of death for the state department. GWB had over 20 times more terrorist killings of foreign representatives in embasies than benghazi. before him other presidents would lose far more than 4 people to terrorist attacks on state department people. Yet we do not hear discussion on how to make these embassies and consulates safer. We have had no suggestions by the right on how to actually improve the safety of foreign consultes. No one is suggesting banning a consulate or ambassador from libya. No one is saying we should have a massive military presence in libya if we are going to have state department people there. no one is blaming libya for lax security or denying american troops access to their country to save the ambassador, or insiting that american military can move on foreign soil if american ambassadors are under fire. The full solution for the right in this case is to point the finger at obama and Hillary and the problem is solved.

That is why the right raising money off of these deaths is truly despicable and wrong. They don't care about these 4 deaths. They do not care about the families of the victims. they do not care about all the other state department people out there who still have security weaknesses and work in hostile areas. All they care about is blaming Obama and hillary and nothing else. Every time there is a school shooting the anti-gun crowd comes out and pushes for legislation that is proven time and again in industrialized nations to lower gun deaths and crimes, and to lower homicide rates and suicides. They push these issues even during times when school shootings are not common, and they just use the regular every day gun violence that goes on in america. They care about stopping these tragedies and making them harder. The republicans and benghazi have done none of that. They are not raising money to stop the next state department deaths. they are raising money to stop Obama and Hillary.

Don't get me wrong. if you want to pitch in money to stop obama and hillary that is certainly part of politics. If your purpose is to stop state department deaths it does you no good to actually put blame on just Obama and hillary because so many other people are involved and it happens on the watches of both dem and rep presidents.
 
As the casual observer of minimal acuity will have long ago noticed, the removal of a largely sidelined Bin Laden accomplished very little.

Right. It was more important to invade Iraq for no reason than seek justice for those killed on 911.
Don't you guys look stupid now making such a fuss about the 4 killed in Benghazi.
 
Right. It was more important to invade Iraq for no reason than seek justice for those killed on 911.
Don't you guys look stupid now making such a fuss about the 4 killed in Benghazi.

When you say "justice," it sounds like you mean "revenge."

No, we don't look stupid. I reserve that to the sort of thinking that thinks that killing a smelly old man would dissuade Islamic militants from continuing to attack. Now, killing them, in vast numbers, might help.
 
Yeah the democrats aren't raising a dime off a classroom of dead 6 year olds :roll:

yep, they even tried to pass a BS gun control bill in congress too.
 
hmmm not shocking at all, some people will do whatever they can to survive in this world:politically and otherwise.
 
It is just like gerrymandering. When the Republican's gerrymandered Texas after the 2010 census, the Democrats cried high crimes and misdemeanors and accused the Republicans of jury rigging elections. Then the democrats happily gerrymandered Illinois it was the republicans turn to cry high crimes and misdemeanors and jury rigging elections. As long as you have people that believe it is more important to be Republican or Democrat than an American, these things will continue to go on and America as a country will continue to suffer.

A bit foot loose and fancy free with the facts.... The Dems cried foul in Texas when they attempted to redistrict mid-decade. That is not done. Yes, everyone gerrymanders (the appropriateness of this is another discussion, but this has been a part of the political fabric for centuries) after the census, but the Texas legislature trying to do so mid-decade was a foul.

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/03/01/opinion/01wed2.html?_r=0
 
Now the Republicans are using the tragic death of four Americans to raise money.

Republicans raising money off Benghazi effort

On a new fundraising page, the committee asks for donations to keep up the fight, declaring it a “coverup” and using pictures of President Obama and former secretary of state Hillary Clinton.
The page implores supporters to “demand answers.”

Pretty rich to see a liberal referring to the deaths of four State Department officials in Benghazi as "tragic deaths" when all they've done the past 6 months is act like nothing happened, it's no big deal, nobody is at fault, just some collateral damage, no need to look behind that curtain. Now, since Republicans may be raising money off the mendacity of a President who wouldn't know the truth if his caddy handed it to him and the rest of the administration liars, you now want to talk about "tragic deaths".

Pathetic.
 
Pretty rich to see a liberal referring to the deaths of four State Department officials in Benghazi as "tragic deaths" when all they've done the past 6 months is act like nothing happened, it's no big deal, nobody is at fault, just some collateral damage, no need to look behind that curtain. Now, since Republicans may be raising money off the mendacity of a President who wouldn't know the truth if his caddy handed it to him and the rest of the administration liars, you now want to talk about "tragic deaths".

Pathetic.

Both President Obama and SOS Hillary Clinton were at Dover and spoke when the four came home. So you are wrong when you say they didn't care.

Obama, Clinton Honor Fallen Americans | RealClearPolitics

Obama, Hillary Clinton Honor Ambassador Chris Stevens, Libya Attack Victims
 
Now the Republicans are using the tragic death of four Americans to raise money.

Republicans raising money off Benghazi effort

On a new fundraising page, the committee asks for donations to keep up the fight, declaring it a “coverup” and using pictures of President Obama and former secretary of state Hillary Clinton.
The page implores supporters to “demand answers.”

That is something you liberal don't want is "ANSWERS" you just want this Obama administrations incompetence, and coverup, to go away.

I hope thy raise a pile of money to get to the truth and expose this Obama administration for what it is.. A corrupt president that should be impeached.
 
Both President Obama and SOS Hillary Clinton were at Dover and spoke when the four came home. So you are wrong when you say they didn't care.

Obama, Clinton Honor Fallen Americans | RealClearPolitics

Obama, Hillary Clinton Honor Ambassador Chris Stevens, Libya Attack Victims

And several of the surviving family members have complained that both President Obama and Secretary Clinton lied to their faces and have not kept their promise to them to get to the bottom of what happened.

Chris Woods attacks Barack Obama over death of his son Tyrone in Benghazi | Mail Online

On CNN, Mother Of Slain Benghazi Victim Excoriates Hillary Clinton: ‘I Blame Her’ | Mediaite

No one ever claimed that Obama isn't great at sashaying into a room and enjoying a good photo-op. Their actions since they jumped in front of the cameras at Dover tell a far different story, but I'm sure your heart was all a flutter when Obama spoke.
 
I give them credit for wanting to see the carnage they caused by their incompetence driven by political policies.
:shock: They caused the carnage? WOW!
 
Sanity in some of these discussions is like a an oasis in the desert.

How can everyone on either of the two sides find hypocrisy so easily and never realize they are hypocrites?

I try to avoid it personally, but I would expect everyone would say that, and yet, here we are, "they did worse".

I don't think people are capable of even being honest with themselves anymore.

People are more concerned about the D or the R than they are with what's best.
You look at the whole benghazi investigation and it is all about how can we blame Obama and hillary for this. No one is going on about the dangers state department people have had to endure. No one is worried that this is certainly not the first or most bloody incident of death for the state department. GWB had over 20 times more terrorist killings of foreign representatives in embasies than benghazi. before him other presidents would lose far more than 4 people to terrorist attacks on state department people. Yet we do not hear discussion on how to make these embassies and consulates safer. We have had no suggestions by the right on how to actually improve the safety of foreign consultes. No one is suggesting banning a consulate or ambassador from libya. No one is saying we should have a massive military presence in libya if we are going to have state department people there. no one is blaming libya for lax security or denying american troops access to their country to save the ambassador, or insiting that american military can move on foreign soil if american ambassadors are under fire. The full solution for the right in this case is to point the finger at obama and Hillary and the problem is solved.
100% true. I find it ridiculous.
:shock: They caused the carnage? WOW!
It really is amazing how deeply the hatred of one letter runs.
 
Now the Republicans are using the tragic death of four Americans to raise money.

Republicans raising money off Benghazi effort

On a new fundraising page, the committee asks for donations to keep up the fight, declaring it a “coverup” and using pictures of President Obama and former secretary of state Hillary Clinton.
The page implores supporters to “demand answers.”

When those in power seek to hide the truth, countervailing power is required to uncover it. Members of the victims' families are assisting the fundraising.:cool:
 
When those in power seek to hide the truth, countervailing power is required to uncover it. Members of the victims' families are assisting the fundraising.:cool:
Sometimes its important to hide the truth, especially when an investigation is in progress.
 
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