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    Re: Republicans raising money off Benghazi effort

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I still don't buy it Jack. If I was one of those into wild conspiracies, the way I hear it told it was State who made almost all the changes. I would say somewhere there is a memo or a e-mail or something such as a State message where Hillary turned down the extra security. Hence State made most of the changes to protect her run for the presidency in 2016.

    Now I am not conspiratist, but this would make better sense to me. I just don't know.
    Hillary would not have made that decision. No SecState would have. Diplomatic Security does that. Nonetheless, I think that State's spokesperson feared that Hillary would be blamed, and that's what drove the process.
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    Re: Republicans raising money off Benghazi effort

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    The question I want an answer to is why on earth would you give a stand down order when American citizens are being attacked? pb, do you know the answer to that?
    There are a multitude of reasons to stand down. Number one is that sending more soldiers into a fight when the enemy is an unknown as far as strength could leave more dead Americans. In short, helicopters get shot down easily. In this case though it is likely that the Ambassador was already dead.

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    Re: Republicans raising money off Benghazi effort

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Hillary would not have made that decision. No SecState would have. Diplomatic Security does that. Nonetheless, I think that State's spokesperson feared that Hillary would be blamed, and that's what drove the process.
    Possible.
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    Re: Republicans raising money off Benghazi effort

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    I think you're missing the point. The investigation we're discussing is the investigation into how the attack was portrayed in Washington. That will not affect the investigation of who did what in Libya.
    Really? Because you just said the crime is:
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    The murder of four Americans.
    So it sounds as if you are talking about the same thing I am, not giving those who committed the crime in Libya notification that they are under suspicion......which was what the SoS office used as a reason for not wanting the WH to say it was "terrorism" by any particular group.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Republicans raising money off Benghazi effort

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Hillary would not have made that decision. No SecState would have. Diplomatic Security does that. Nonetheless, I think that State's spokesperson feared that Hillary would be blamed, and that's what drove the process.
    See, you ARE talking about what I am talking about.
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Republicans raising money off Benghazi effort

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Really? Because you just said the crime is:

    So it sounds as if you are talking about the same thing I am, not giving those who committed the crime in Libya notification that they are under suspicion......which was what the SoS office used as a reason for not wanting the WH to say it was "terrorism" by any particular group.
    They already knew they were under suspicion. They knew there was no demonstration. The DoS spokesperson was using "national security" to pursue a political objective. Neither the CIA nor the FBI complained that the TP's undermined the investigation.
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    Re: Republicans raising money off Benghazi effort

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    They already knew they were under suspicion. They knew there was no demonstration. The DoS spokesperson was using "national security" to pursue a political objective. Neither the CIA nor the FBI complained that the TP's undermined the investigation.
    Um...

    November 16, 2012

    After the hearings, lawmakers who questioned Petraeus said he testified that the CIA's draft talking points written in response to the assault on the diplomat post in Benghazi that killed four Americans referred to it as a terrorist attack. But Petraeus told the lawmakers that reference was removed from the final version, although he wasn't sure which federal agency deleted it.


    Democrats said Petraeus made it clear the change was not done for political reasons during President Barack Obama's re-election campaign.
    "The general was adamant there was no politicization of the process, no White House interference or political agenda," said Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif. "He completely debunked that idea."

    Petraeus: U.S. didn't reveal role of terrorists in Benghazi to avoid tipping them off - San Jose Mercury News
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    If you wanna know why Trumpsters are ignoring you its for the same reason you ignored the KKKs complaints about Obama.
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    When it comes down to it, all facts are cherry picked.
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    He didn't say it didn't make sense. He said it is complete nonsense.

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    Re: Republicans raising money off Benghazi effort

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post

    So it sounds as if you are talking about the same thing I am, not giving those who committed the crime in Libya notification that they are under suspicion......which was what the SoS office used as a reason for not wanting the WH to say it was "terrorism" by any particular group.


    So instead they decided to through those terrorist off by blaming it on a video. Maybe the news shouldn't say "bank robbers" where the ones who robbed the bank because we don't want to make "bank robbers" think we are on to them

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    Re: Republicans raising money off Benghazi effort

    Quote Originally Posted by Gimmesometruth View Post
    Um...

    November 16, 2012

    After the hearings, lawmakers who questioned Petraeus said he testified that the CIA's draft talking points written in response to the assault on the diplomat post in Benghazi that killed four Americans referred to it as a terrorist attack. But Petraeus told the lawmakers that reference was removed from the final version, although he wasn't sure which federal agency deleted it.


    Democrats said Petraeus made it clear the change was not done for political reasons during President Barack Obama's re-election campaign.
    "The general was adamant there was no politicization of the process, no White House interference or political agenda," said Rep. Adam Schiff, D-Calif. "He completely debunked that idea."

    Petraeus: U.S. didn't reveal role of terrorists in Benghazi to avoid tipping them off - San Jose Mercury News
    "CIA director David Petraeus was surprised when he read the freshly rewritten talking points an aide had emailed him in the early afternoon of Saturday,

    September 15. One day earlier, analysts with the CIA’s Office of Terrorism Analysis had drafted a set of unclassified talking points policymakers could use to discuss the attacks in Benghazi, Libya. But this new version​—​produced with input from senior Obama administration policymakers​—​was a shadow of the original

    The original CIA talking points had been blunt: The assault on U.S. facilities in Benghazi was a terrorist attack conducted by a large group of Islamic extremists, including some with ties to al Qaeda.

    These were strong claims. The CIA usually qualifies its assessments, providing policymakers a sense of whether the conclusions of its analysis are offered with “high confidence,” “moderate confidence,” or “low confidence.” That first draft signaled confidence, even certainty: “We do know that Islamic extremists with ties to al Qaeda participated in the attack.”

    The Benghazi Scandal Grows | The Weekly Standard

    would also like to add anything that Petraeus testified to during that hearing is compromised, He has lost creditability caused by his affair being held over his head
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    Re: Republicans raising money off Benghazi effort

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Now the Republicans are using the tragic death of four Americans to raise money.

    Republicans raising money off Benghazi effort

    On a new fundraising page, the committee asks for donations to keep up the fight, declaring it a “coverup” and using pictures of President Obama and former secretary of state Hillary Clinton.
    The page implores supporters to “demand answers.”
    What's wrong with that? President Obama sent me at least a dozen emails about gun control urging me to send money to support the fight. And what is wrong with demanding answers? We've already found somebody (somebodies) lied through their teeth.
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