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    Re: Republicans raising money off Benghazi effort

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Just another reason why he was a poor Director. That was one of those times when "national security" was invoked to pursue a political objective.
    So you are saying its just politics?

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    Re: Republicans raising money off Benghazi effort

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    So you are saying its just politics?
    Not "just" politics. There are times when the Director supports the administration's political narrative because that's good team baseball. An episode when two of his own people were killed may not have been a good time for that.
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    Re: Republicans raising money off Benghazi effort

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    The question I want an answer to is why on earth would you give a stand down order when American citizens are being attacked? pb, do you know the answer to that?
    Pb? Anyone?


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    Re: Republicans raising money off Benghazi effort

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    Because the BHO line was that the GWOT was over.
    There has to be a lot more than that. It just doesn't make sense, but since when did politics make any sense.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Republicans raising money off Benghazi effort

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    There has to be a lot more than that. It just doesn't make sense, but since when did politics make any sense.
    It was in the middle of a Presidential campaign. Nuff said.
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    Re: Republicans raising money off Benghazi effort

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    Pb? Anyone?
    You won't get an answer from pb - it doesn't fit his agenda.
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    Re: Republicans raising money off Benghazi effort

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    The question I want an answer to is why on earth would you give a stand down order when American citizens are being attacked? pb, do you know the answer to that?
    DOD Cooperates With Congress on Benghazi Probes

    By Jim Garamone
    American Forces Press Service

    WASHINGTON, May 8, 2013 – The Defense Department has cooperated fully with Congress and the State Department on the investigation into the attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, that led to the death of four U.S. citizens, Pentagon Press Secretary George Little said here today.

    A number of panels on Capitol Hill are examining the incident, which occurred September 11, 2012.

    DOD officials provided a full accounting of military actions, “before, during and after” the attack. “The fact remains -- as we have repeatedly indicated -- that United States forces could not have arrived in time to mount a rescue of those Americans killed or injured that night,” Little said.

    The attacks killed U.S. Ambassador to Libya J. Christopher Stevens, information officer Sean Smith, and former Navy SEALs Tyrone Woods and Glen Doherty.

    The U.S. military responded quickly to notifications of the attack on the Benghazi consulate, the spokesman said.

    Little specifically addressed what military personnel in the Libyan capital of Tripoli were doing during the attack. Special operations personnel, he said, were in Libya in general support of embassy security and to aid the movement of embassy personnel.

    Little reiterated that two service members did go from Tripoli to Benghazi that evening. These personnel were members of a quick reaction force quickly put together.

    “We also had four personnel who continued a mission in Tripoli to support the relocation of American embassy personnel to that location,” Little said. “This is against a backdrop of uncertainty and concerns of threats to diplomatic installations throughout the region.”

    The four personnel stayed in the area to relocate American embassy personnel from various embassy facilities to a U.S. embassy annex in Tripoli, Little said.

    These four personnel attempted to travel to Benghazi. “The team leader of this four-man unit, called Special Operations Command—Africa to tell them that the movement of personnel to the annex was complete,” Little said. “He then reported his intention to move his team to Benghazi aboard a Libyan C-130.”

    But by this time, the mission in Benghazi had shifted to evacuation. The higher command directed the team leader “to continue providing support to the embassy in Tripoli,” Little said.

    “We continue to believe there was nothing this team could have done to assist during the second attack in Benghazi,” he added.

    [B]The four-man team remained in Tripoli and played a key role in receiving, treating and moving the wounded from Benghazi.

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    Re: Republicans raising money off Benghazi effort

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    It was in the middle of a Presidential campaign. Nuff said.
    I still don't buy it Jack. If I was one of those into wild conspiracies, the way I hear it told it was State who made almost all the changes. I would say somewhere there is a memo or a e-mail or something such as a State message where Hillary turned down the extra security. Hence State made most of the changes to protect her run for the presidency in 2016.

    Now I am not conspiratist, but this would make better sense to me. I just don't know.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Republicans raising money off Benghazi effort

    The problem with the "they couldn't have helped anyway" excuse is that no one knew that at the time the stand down order was issued. Unless, of course, you're claiming the US government has psychic abilities which is a whole other topic (in Off Topic Discussions).


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    Re: Republicans raising money off Benghazi effort

    Quote Originally Posted by Josie View Post
    Pb? Anyone?
    The order came because the Americans were already dead.

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