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    Re: Republicans raising money off Benghazi effort

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    So you think we should not have gone after Bin Laden and Associates in Afghanistan? Of course you don't. You must be of French descent.
    That brings up yet another of Bush's mistakes, failing to get Bin Laden in Afghanistan. Now there's a great topic for a hearing. Why would he leave the hunt for America's most wanted man to a bunch of towel heads? Talk about incompetence. No President could ever top that for dereliction of duty.

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    Re: Republicans raising money off Benghazi effort

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    My logical ability is just fine. Republicans claim they want "justice" for those in Libya. Democrats claim they want "justice" for those in Connecticut. If you choose to ignore the facts, I cannot help you.
    Typical deflection. You don't want to examine what happened in Libya so you talk about Connecticut. And yet, you bring up "Democrats claim they want "justice"". Who? What Democrats?

    You accuse me of ignoring facts...I applaud the Republicans for searching for the facts.

    I accuse you of raising strawmen...you raise more.

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    Re: Republicans raising money off Benghazi effort

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    Typical deflection. You don't want to examine what happened in Libya so you talk about Connecticut.
    Uhh, nothing was being deflected in my statement, I was responding to someone else's "deflection", when they mentioned Democrats raising money "off a classroom of dead 6 year olds". Seriously, is it too much to ask you to actually read what you're posting to? Just once, I'd like to see you actually show some knowledge of the conversation when you reply to me.

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    Re: Republicans raising money off Benghazi effort

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    It is just like gerrymandering. When the Republican's gerrymandered Texas after the 2010 census, the Democrats cried high crimes and misdemeanors and accused the Republicans of jury rigging elections. Then the democrats happily gerrymandered Illinois it was the republicans turn to cry high crimes and misdemeanors and jury rigging elections. As long as you have people that believe it is more important to be Republican or Democrat than an American, these things will continue to go on and America as a country will continue to suffer.
    Sanity in some of these discussions is like a an oasis in the desert.

    How can everyone on either of the two sides find hypocrisy so easily and never realize they are hypocrites?

    I try to avoid it personally, but I would expect everyone would say that, and yet, here we are, "they did worse".

    I don't think people are capable of even being honest with themselves anymore.
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    Re: Republicans raising money off Benghazi effort

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    That brings up yet another of Bush's mistakes, failing to get Bin Laden in Afghanistan. Now there's a great topic for a hearing. Why would he leave the hunt for America's most wanted man to a bunch of towel heads? Talk about incompetence. No President could ever top that for dereliction of duty.
    As the casual observer of minimal acuity will have long ago noticed, the removal of a largely sidelined Bin Laden accomplished very little.
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    Re: Republicans raising money off Benghazi effort

    I thought it was stupid to whine because people used an actual gun incident to promote the dangers of guns. Seriously, what other way can one promote the dangers of guns without pointing out the deaths and tragedies associated with them. It was not like people wanted the deaths of those in Sandy hook or other places to happen. I guess the same could apply to benghazi if it were actually about the dead people and demanding solutions for state department people serving in dangerous areas. Where i can say people who want gun control really want lives to be saved and want gun violence to stop, I cannot say that people actually give a damn about the dead state department people in benghazi. No, the attacks on benghazi are really about obama and hillary.

    You look at the whole benghazi investigation and it is all about how can we blame Obama and hillary for this. No one is going on about the dangers state department people have had to endure. No one is worried that this is certainly not the first or most bloody incident of death for the state department. GWB had over 20 times more terrorist killings of foreign representatives in embasies than benghazi. before him other presidents would lose far more than 4 people to terrorist attacks on state department people. Yet we do not hear discussion on how to make these embassies and consulates safer. We have had no suggestions by the right on how to actually improve the safety of foreign consultes. No one is suggesting banning a consulate or ambassador from libya. No one is saying we should have a massive military presence in libya if we are going to have state department people there. no one is blaming libya for lax security or denying american troops access to their country to save the ambassador, or insiting that american military can move on foreign soil if american ambassadors are under fire. The full solution for the right in this case is to point the finger at obama and Hillary and the problem is solved.

    That is why the right raising money off of these deaths is truly despicable and wrong. They don't care about these 4 deaths. They do not care about the families of the victims. they do not care about all the other state department people out there who still have security weaknesses and work in hostile areas. All they care about is blaming Obama and hillary and nothing else. Every time there is a school shooting the anti-gun crowd comes out and pushes for legislation that is proven time and again in industrialized nations to lower gun deaths and crimes, and to lower homicide rates and suicides. They push these issues even during times when school shootings are not common, and they just use the regular every day gun violence that goes on in america. They care about stopping these tragedies and making them harder. The republicans and benghazi have done none of that. They are not raising money to stop the next state department deaths. they are raising money to stop Obama and Hillary.

    Don't get me wrong. if you want to pitch in money to stop obama and hillary that is certainly part of politics. If your purpose is to stop state department deaths it does you no good to actually put blame on just Obama and hillary because so many other people are involved and it happens on the watches of both dem and rep presidents.

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    Re: Republicans raising money off Benghazi effort

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    As the casual observer of minimal acuity will have long ago noticed, the removal of a largely sidelined Bin Laden accomplished very little.
    Right. It was more important to invade Iraq for no reason than seek justice for those killed on 911.
    Don't you guys look stupid now making such a fuss about the 4 killed in Benghazi.

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    Re: Republicans raising money off Benghazi effort

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Right. It was more important to invade Iraq for no reason than seek justice for those killed on 911.
    Don't you guys look stupid now making such a fuss about the 4 killed in Benghazi.
    When you say "justice," it sounds like you mean "revenge."

    No, we don't look stupid. I reserve that to the sort of thinking that thinks that killing a smelly old man would dissuade Islamic militants from continuing to attack. Now, killing them, in vast numbers, might help.
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    Re: Republicans raising money off Benghazi effort

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Yeah the democrats aren't raising a dime off a classroom of dead 6 year olds
    yep, they even tried to pass a BS gun control bill in congress too.
    Go Vols

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    Re: Republicans raising money off Benghazi effort

    hmmm not shocking at all, some people will do whatever they can to survive in this world:Politically and otherwise.

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