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    Re: Republicans raising money off Benghazi effort

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    where were the neocons and their rage when our diplomats were attacked on the republican watch

    June 14, 2002, U.S. consulate in Karachi, Pakistan
    Suicide bomber kills 12 and injures 51.

    February 20, 2003, international diplomatic compound in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
    Truck bomb kills 17.

    February 28, 2003, U.S. consulate in Karachi, Pakistan
    Gunmen on motorcycles killed two consulate guards.

    July 30, 2004, U.S. embassy in Taskkent, Uzbekistan
    Suicide bomber kills two.

    December 6, 2004, U.S. consulate in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia
    Militants stormed and occupied perimeter wall. Five killed, 10 wounded.

    March 2, 2006, U.S. consulate in Karachi, Pakistan
    Suicide car bomber killed four, including a U.S. diplomat directly targeted by the assailants.
    bubba...surely even you can see there is a big difference between suicide attacks and an 8-hour, pre-planned, all out attack on two American facilities with no support, no backup and no rescue efforts made by the Obama administration?
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    Re: Republicans raising money off Benghazi effort

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    bubba...surely even you can see there is a big difference between suicide attacks and an 8-hour, pre-planned, all out attack on two American facilities with no support, no backup and no rescue efforts made by the Obama administration?
    Yup. The movie that will be made about the two ex-SEALs will have lots of lines about the brotherhood of arms and their confidence that their brothers are coming. Right up until they die. There's a Roland-at-the-bridge quality to this story.
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    Re: Republicans raising money off Benghazi effort

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Yeah the democrats aren't raising a dime off a classroom of dead 6 year olds
    I gave you a "Like" on this one because there was no "Really Really Like" choice offered.

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    Re: Republicans raising money off Benghazi effort

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    where were the neocons and their rage when our diplomats were attacked on the republican watch

    June 14, 2002, U.S. consulate in Karachi, Pakistan
    Suicide bomber kills 12 and injures 51.

    February 20, 2003, international diplomatic compound in Riyadh, Saudi Arabia
    Truck bomb kills 17.

    February 28, 2003, U.S. consulate in Karachi, Pakistan
    Gunmen on motorcycles killed two consulate guards.

    July 30, 2004, U.S. embassy in Taskkent, Uzbekistan
    Suicide bomber kills two.

    December 6, 2004, U.S. consulate in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia
    Militants stormed and occupied perimeter wall. Five killed, 10 wounded.

    March 2, 2006, U.S. consulate in Karachi, Pakistan
    Suicide car bomber killed four, including a U.S. diplomat directly targeted by the assailants.
    Really.....well then how can we let this go. Considering Under Bill Clinton we had the same Problem of with Securing an Embassy and it's Ambassador. Do you think all of those that make up for the 212 killed in Kenya and the 4000 thousand wounded? Did you forget Tanzania, Somalia? Blackhawk Down Ring a bell?

    So under Democrats here we have a repeating mistake. Wherein Bill Clinton had his US Ambassador Step down. This is also DeJa Vu for Rice too. Who worked for noneother than Bill Clinton. So I think you can see that it isn't going to be let go.

    For Susan Rice, Benghazi Was Kenya 1998 Deja Vu

    Parallels: A mission was attacked after warnings, Americans were killed after security requests were denied, and a diplomat went on TV to explain it all — our current U.N. ambassador, after embassy bombings in 1998.

    'What troubles me so much is the Benghazi attack in many ways echoes the attacks on both embassies in 1998, when Susan Rice was head of the African region for our State Department," Sen. Susan Collins, R-Maine, said Wednesday after two hours with our U.N. ambassador. "In both cases, the ambassador begged for additional security."

    In both cases, Susan Rice was involved more than she would like to admit.

    In the spring of 1998, Prudence Bushnell, the U.S. ambassador to Kenya, sent an emotional letter to Secretary of State Madeleine Albright begging for a more secure embassy in the face of mounting terrorist threats and a warning that she was the target of an assassination plot.

    The State Department had repeatedly denied her request, citing a lack of money. But that kind of response, she wrote Albright, was "endangering the lives of embassy personnel."

    A matter of months later, on Aug. 7, 1998, the American embassies in Tanzania and Kenya were simultaneously attacked with car bombs. In Kenya, 12 American diplomats and more than 200 Africans were killed.

    As in Benghazi, requests for more security were denied, warnings were issued, prior incidents were ignored and Susan Rice went on TV to explain it all.

    Within 24 hours, Rice, then assistant secretary of state for African affairs, went on PBS as spokesperson for the administration — just as she was regarding Benghazi when she parroted the administration's false narrative on five Sunday talk shows on Sept. 16, 2012, that Benghazi was caused by a flash mob enraged by an Internet video. Then, as now, she worked for a Clinton.

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    The funny thing is Rice repeated herself here, lock stock and barrel......and just like with Kenya. They said the Intel didn't know.....despite the CIA and others knowing of an AQ cell In Kenya? One would think certain people would learn from their first mistake. One would think it would be the Democrats.....who just keep on making the same Mistakes.

    Yeah that's Right.....Kenya! Let me guess.....it's a mere coincidincy.

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    Re: Republicans raising money off Benghazi effort

    Quote Originally Posted by Mycroft View Post
    bubba...surely even you can see there is a big difference between suicide attacks and an 8-hour, pre-planned, all out attack on two American facilities with no support, no backup and no rescue efforts made by the Obama administration?
    AH ... your point raises yet another point that there's a big difference between "seeing" & "acknowledging" when dealing with the Obama deadenders.
    And, btw, is it possible to refer to him as "justa" next time?
    I have to say, calling him "Bubba" was a bit jarring.

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    Re: Republicans raising money off Benghazi effort

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    How was my response baiting? Are you serious??

    By that measure, every single thread this poster initiates is a violation because it twists the truth in order to bait responses.
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    This is what I hate about politics the most, it turns people in snobbish egotistical self righteous dicks who allow their political beliefs, partisan attitudes, and 'us vs. them' mentality, to force them to deny reality.

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    Re: Republicans raising money off Benghazi effort

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Now the Republicans are using the tragic death of four Americans to raise money.

    Republicans raising money off Benghazi effort

    On a new fundraising page, the committee asks for donations to keep up the fight, declaring it a “coverup” and using pictures of President Obama and former secretary of state Hillary Clinton.
    The page implores supporters to “demand answers.”

    Had the Democrats told the truth two months prior to the election about Benghazi, they would have lost.
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    Re: Republicans raising money off Benghazi effort

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    Yes.

    Because it's not the United States? I'm sorry, that was a silly statement you made here.

    I would think going forward, those who are currently serving are much more interested in our government making sure the failures of preparation which happened in Benghazi do not happen where they are stationed. My guess is those who are serving are far less concerned about e-mails and talking points and far more concerned with the security of their positions.
    Yes, they would have. The NRA delights in making people scared, because people who are scared buy more guns.
    When the Benghazi attack happened, Libyans across the country showed their support for us.
    In the back of every Lib's "mind" lingers the question ..." Why couldn't those " demonstrators" just have finished the job " ?
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    Re: Republicans raising money off Benghazi effort

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    In the back of every Lib's "mind" lingers the question ..." Why couldn't those " demonstrators" just have finished the job " ?
    I'm curious... do you EVER say anything that is not an illogical gross overgeneralization?
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    Re: Republicans raising money off Benghazi effort

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    And the people responsible for the deaths of the 4 adults very well could be as well. At the very least, you know they are being investigated and tracked.


    Whoa whoa whoa, you're changing your story. In the first place, you want to blame the person who committed the deed, and in the second, you don't want to blame the person/persons who committed the deed but rather other people you feel contributed to the situation. Try to be consistent. Nobody in America killed those 4 adults, no more than Bushmaster killed those 20 children. If you're going to blame those who contributed to the situation, then I suggest you start leveling your ire towards the gun manufacturers also.
    Exactly. What difference, at this point, does it make? How about we spend our time actually making a difference, instead of trying to score political points about something that happened 8 months ago?


    In order to find common ground, Republicans need to squash two things: 1) the stupid tea party people and 2) the amount of money allowed to be spent on elections.

    The Republican party is incredibly fractured right now, and that fracture is mostly responsible for the lack of common ground. You have stupid tea party people (and I want to clarify that believing in the ideals of the tea party is not necessarily stupid, I'm simply referring to the stupid people who ascribed to tea party concepts) who keep pushing increasingly radical solutions to problems ( which sometimes don't even exist) and refuse any possibility of compromise. You have moderate Republicans in between a rock and a hard place because they can't move right if they wish to get something done but can't move center if they want to win elections. And the only reason challenges from the right are so scary is because of the vast amounts of money which are allowed to flow unchecked into elections, even the primaries.

    Until this get fixed, the common ground will not be found, regardless of who is in charge.
    As far as money spent on elections, it would take a constitutional amendment. The SCOTUS ruling that money is speech pretty well opened the flood gates to billion dollar presidential campaigns. It will only get worse from here. I agree also on the Tea Party, when they first came into being they were talking about the debt and deficit. Not a word about social issues. This was exactly what a follower of Perot and a member of the Reform Party could latch on to. But since then they became more interested in no new taxes and jumped into the social issue arena and have said or talked very little about the debt.

    It is like the Tea Party has lost their reason for their beginning.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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