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    Re: Republicans raising money off Benghazi effort

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    She's pretty good. I can tend to believe the president taking Benghazi as a political even as it seems he has never stopped campaigning. Even with the gun control bill, instead of working the phones with congress to get the votes like Clinton did to get his gun control passed, he went on the campaign trail to tote the bill. If LBJ, another president who would work the phones with congress used Obama's strategy of campaign mood on the Civil Rights Act or the Voting Rights act, we would have neither of them now. LBJ, Clinton were willing to utilize political capital to get things through Congress, I really haven't seen this in the current president. Even the passing of the ACA, it was all Reid and Pelosi.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Republicans raising money off Benghazi effort

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    The person responsible for the 20 children deaths is now dead.
    And the people responsible for the deaths of the 4 adults very well could be as well. At the very least, you know they are being investigated and tracked.

    Once we know for certain who failed to help those 4 Americans who died, I would go along with the same punishment.
    Whoa whoa whoa, you're changing your story. In the first place, you want to blame the person who committed the deed, and in the second, you don't want to blame the person/persons who committed the deed but rather other people you feel contributed to the situation. Try to be consistent. Nobody in America killed those 4 adults, no more than Bushmaster killed those 20 children. If you're going to blame those who contributed to the situation, then I suggest you start leveling your ire towards the gun manufacturers also.
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    What difference, at this point, does it make?
    Exactly. What difference, at this point, does it make? How about we spend our time actually making a difference, instead of trying to score political points about something that happened 8 months ago?

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    As for finding common ground, in the senate I think you have to get rid of Reid and McConnell both and replace them with leaders interested in solving problems and looking out for America and her future instead of only looking for what is good for your political party. I might recommend Alexander on the Republican side, maybe a Pryor or a Udall on the Democratic side.

    The house, it does seem at times Boehner would be willing to work with the president, then it seems members of his own party tend to rebel at that thought. So it is my opinon even if Boehner is willing, he won’t work with the president if he wants to remain speaker and so we are back to gridlock.
    In order to find common ground, Republicans need to squash two things: 1) the stupid tea party people and 2) the amount of money allowed to be spent on elections.

    The Republican party is incredibly fractured right now, and that fracture is mostly responsible for the lack of common ground. You have stupid tea party people (and I want to clarify that believing in the ideals of the tea party is not necessarily stupid, I'm simply referring to the stupid people who ascribed to tea party concepts) who keep pushing increasingly radical solutions to problems ( which sometimes don't even exist) and refuse any possibility of compromise. You have moderate Republicans in between a rock and a hard place because they can't move right if they wish to get something done but can't move center if they want to win elections. And the only reason challenges from the right are so scary is because of the vast amounts of money which are allowed to flow unchecked into elections, even the primaries.

    Until this get fixed, the common ground will not be found, regardless of who is in charge.

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    Re: Republicans raising money off Benghazi effort

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Hillary and Barry decided that the Ambassador was already dead so it was time to call it a night? That's not as great an excuse as you might hope it to be.
    They had nothing to do with the "stand down order". It was a military decision, period. This is the dumbest stuff you guys have tried and its not going to get you anywhere but lower in the polls. Keep it up.

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    Re: Republicans raising money off Benghazi effort

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    At least Republicans are proud of being an American. Democrats can't make such a claim.
    Yeah real proud, so proud of America they regularly admit to despising half of all Americans.
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    Re: Republicans raising money off Benghazi effort

    Is it possible that the attack on Benghazi was BOTH an attack by Islamic extremists AND motivated by the video?

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    Re: Republicans raising money off Benghazi effort

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptinSarcastic View Post
    Yeah real proud, so proud of America they regularly admit to despising half of all Americans.
    Or worse, they attack Americans right after an attack on a US embassy by Islamic extremists. It makes me wonder whose side Republicans are really on, the US or Al Qaedas.

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    Re: Republicans raising money off Benghazi effort

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    Is it possible that the attack on Benghazi was BOTH an attack by Islamic extremists AND motivated by the video?
    Hiya Moot. No.....there were prior attacks on the Consulate. They Attempted to assassinate the Brits Ambassador and the Italians. They Attacked the Red Cross Offices.

    There was No Protestors or demonstration in Benghazi.....that is the whole point. It was a Pre-Planned attack, Organized, and for Over a Month Team Obama denied it saying all was connected to the Video.....until finally admitting to it after others had already told the media it was an Attack.

    Course now we know they knew all along.

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    Re: Republicans raising money off Benghazi effort

    [QUOTE=Slyfox696;1061797657]And the people responsible for the deaths of the 4 adults very well could be as well. At the very least, you know they are being investigated and tracked.


    Whoa whoa whoa, you're changing your story. In the first place, you want to blame the person who committed the deed, and in the second, you don't want to blame the person/persons who committed the deed but rather other people you feel contributed to the situation. Try to be consistent. Nobody in America killed those 4 adults, no more than Bushmaster killed those 20 children. If you're going to blame those who contributed to the situation, then I suggest you start leveling your ire towards the gun manufacturers also.
    Exactly. What difference, at this point, does it make? How about we spend our time actually making a difference, instead of trying to score political points about something that happened 8 months ago? QUOTE]


    "Oh".....do you think there is an Active investigation going on in Libya trying to bring those to Justice? Is there some reason why no one has been brought in for Questioning by us? Any reason why we don't have the Leader of Ansar Al Sharia in Custody?

    The difference it makes is to those who have fallen.....as well as any others working in government who have to rely on their government to come and get them out if harm comes their way. Do you think those that Actually Serve the Country should be able to.....at the very least trust their government some what partially. Do you think that is important going forward for all those that serve everywhere else too?
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    Re: Republicans raising money off Benghazi effort

    Republicans delight in their cuts for embassy security.

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    There were, by most estimates, 500 Nazis in Charlottesville. One of them went homicidal. Not all Nazis are violent extremists. You are trying to rationalize your hatred and it's simply not rational.
    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    as I noted, its better that 10 nutjobs get guns than one good person be wrongly disarmed.

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    Re: Republicans raising money off Benghazi effort

    Quote Originally Posted by Utility Man View Post
    Republicans delight in their cuts for embassy security.

    That was Debunked......by the Fact Checkers. Which we did so in 3 other threads. Try again!

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