Page 14 of 16 FirstFirst ... 41213141516 LastLast
Results 131 to 140 of 151

Thread: White House holds OFF-THE-RECORD briefing with reporters on Benghazi

  1. #131
    Banned
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Last Seen
    12-08-13 @ 10:28 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    3,114

    Re: White House holds OFF-THE-RECORD briefing with reporters on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    It's BS? How is it BS?

    Because they are incredibly experienced in the logistics of military action? Because they know what our forces are capable of and how quickly it's possible to move? Because they understand the preparation necessary to conduct these types of operations and the amount of intelligence needed to properly plan? Because it's their JOB to know these things?

    It ended when we evacuated those at the annex. What, did you think those at the annex just stepped into a teleporter? Help got there as soon as it could, and when it did, we evacuated.

    You seem to be confusing different things. First of all, within the first half hour or so of the first attack on the consulate, Stevens and Smith were dead. Once the attack started, NOTHING could have saved them. A team from the annex arrived to the consulate (about an hour later I believe) and evacuated those who were still in the consulate after the first attack. Then (and I don't remember the exact time, but I believe it was around 12:30 Benghazi time) a six man team arrived from Tripoli. So reinforcements were sent and one of their primary objectives was to find Stevens (who had been taken to the hospital). Then, around 4:30 (again, I believe this is right, I don't have a timeline in front of me at the moment) the attack on the annex commenced. Woods and Doherty were killed by mortar fire...what could have saved them? I posted earlier in this thread an article from a former marine officer and special operations leader and he went through the various scenarios and showed why it was nearly impossible to do anything which would have saved Woods and Doherty. Just in my last post, I provided a transcript of an interview from Bush's former Sec of Defense in which he explained why there was little which could be done. Panetta (and apparently Dempsey) have explained why nothing could be done.

    How many people with experience in this area do you need to explain it to you?


    I've already provided you the answers, from people far more qualified than I am to answer. Once more, you are asking questions which have already been answered.
    The deputy of slain U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens has told congressional investigators that a team of Special Forces prepared to fly from Tripoli to Benghazi during the Sept. 11, 2012 attacks was forbidden from doing so by U.S. Special Operations Command South Africa. The account from Gregory Hicks is in stark contrast to assertions from the Obama administration, which insisted that nobody was ever told to stand down and that all available resources were utilized. Hicks gave private testimony to congressional investigators last month in advance of his upcoming appearance at a congressional hearing Wednesday. According to excerpts released Monday, Hicks told investigators that SOCAFRICA commander Lt. Col. Gibson and his team were on their way to board a C-130 from Tripoli for Benghazi prior to an attack on a second U.S. compound "when [Col. Gibson] got a phone call from SOCAFRICA which said, 'you can't go now, you don't have the authority to go now.' And so they missed the flight ... They were told not to board the flight, so they missed it." No assistance arrived from the U.S. military outside of Libya during the hours that Americans were under attack or trapped inside compounds by hostile forces armed with rocket-propelled grenades, mortars and AK-47 rifles. Hicks told congressional investigators that if the U.S. had quickly sent a military aircraft over Benghazi, it might have saved American lives. The U.S. Souda Bay Naval Base is an hour's flight from Libya.


    I will say it again incase you missed it "Lt. Col. Gibson and his team were on their way to board a C-130 from Tripoli for Benghazi prior to an attack on a second U.S. compound " and " 'you can't go now, you don't have the authority to go now.' And so they missed the flight ... "
    Last edited by trfjr; 05-13-13 at 10:02 PM.

  2. #132
    Sage
    Slyfox696's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 11:52 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    7,985

    Re: White House holds OFF-THE-RECORD briefing with reporters on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by dirtpoorchris View Post
    Every embassy needs Mass Acceleration 1 Man Balloon harnesses. The opposite of parachutes. you pop a cord and it shoots you many many hundred feet into the air. Then a plane with a "skyhook" comes and rescues them just like batman.

    Although I could see this being VERY dangerous in the hands of secret troops for quick escape if the troops served a nefarious person.

    Someone may chide me that real life isnt fantasy but I believe this could actually work.

    It would have to be bulletproof (or resistant) and infused with a gas so light it really shot them into the air fast.

    Floating away into the sky like dorthy in wizard of oz is much better than getting swarmed by zombies.

    Maybe even have 50 fake dummies on ball0ons also shoot out of the roofs with the real people having homing devices for pickup. Train the real people to stay still like dummies :p
    It's how James Bond would do it.

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    The deputy of slain U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens has told congressional investigators that a team of Special Forces prepared to fly from Tripoli to Benghazi during the Sept. 11, 2012 attacks was forbidden from doing so by U.S. Special Operations Command South Africa. The account from Gregory Hicks is in stark contrast to assertions from the Obama administration, which insisted that nobody was ever told to stand down and that all available resources were utilized. Hicks gave private testimony to congressional investigators last month in advance of his upcoming appearance at a congressional hearing Wednesday. According to excerpts released Monday, Hicks told investigators that SOCAFRICA commander Lt. Col. Gibson and his team were on their way to board a C-130 from Tripoli for Benghazi prior to an attack on a second U.S. compound "when [Col. Gibson] got a phone call from SOCAFRICA which said, 'you can't go now, you don't have the authority to go now.' And so they missed the flight ... They were told not to board the flight, so they missed it." No assistance arrived from the U.S. military outside of Libya during the hours that Americans were under attack or trapped inside compounds by hostile forces armed with rocket-propelled grenades, mortars and AK-47 rifles. Hicks told congressional investigators that if the U.S. had quickly sent a military aircraft over Benghazi, it might have saved American lives. The U.S. Souda Bay Naval Base is an hour's flight from Libya.


    I will say it again incase you missed it "Lt. Col. Gibson and his team were on their way to board a C-130 from Tripoli for Benghazi prior to an attack on a second U.S. compound " and " 'you can't go now, you don't have the authority to go now.' And so they missed the flight ... "
    And I will post this article again, because you obviously did miss it:

    Benghazi (II): A military analysis of the Fox mystery man's fantasy rescue plan | The Best Defense

    You're giving me the what, but you keep asking for the why. I'm giving you the why and you keep repeating the what and asking why. You keep asking questions which have already been answered. Throw in the other link I've provided to the Robert Gates interview, and your persistence on this matter shows you don't really want to know why, you just want to continue political attacks.

  3. #133
    Banned
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Chicago Illinois
    Last Seen
    10-14-15 @ 09:28 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Private
    Posts
    56,981

    Re: White House holds OFF-THE-RECORD briefing with reporters on Benghazi

    [QUOTE=Slyfox696;1061804137]

    Your constant. Sentence fragments. Make no sense.

    Only to those that feign ignorance with the English Language. But I did notice on all that talk you do. How you never followed the link you were given.

  4. #134
    Sage
    Slyfox696's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 11:52 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    7,985

    Re: White House holds OFF-THE-RECORD briefing with reporters on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Only to those that feign ignorance with the English Language. But I did notice on all that talk you do. How you never followed the link you were given.
    No, they make no sense to anyone who does understand the English language. You're careless with your nouns, you bring up irrelevant and previously unmentioned information and expect people to know what you're talking about. You weren't making sense, not because you were posting sentence fragments, but because you simply were not making sense. That's not an attack, it's just the way you post. You need to be more specific with your nouns and you need to introduce information in the proper manner. It will make things so much easier.

    I read almost every link which is provided as a direct response to me. Once more, you are unclear and are unclear in a sentence fragment. Which link are you referring to?

  5. #135
    Banned
    Join Date
    Feb 2012
    Location
    Chicago Illinois
    Last Seen
    10-14-15 @ 09:28 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Private
    Posts
    56,981

    Re: White House holds OFF-THE-RECORD briefing with reporters on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    No, they make no sense to anyone who does understand the English language. You're careless with your nouns, you bring up irrelevant and previously unmentioned information and expect people to know what you're talking about. You weren't making sense, not because you were posting sentence fragments, but because you simply were not making sense. That's not an attack, it's just the way you post. You need to be more specific with your nouns and you need to introduce information in the proper manner. It will make things so much easier.

    I read almost every link which is provided as a direct response to me. Once more, you are unclear and are unclear in a sentence fragment. Which link are you referring to?
    Go back and re-read the Thread.....since you have such a difficulty.

  6. #136
    Sage
    Slyfox696's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2013
    Last Seen
    Yesterday @ 11:52 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Moderate
    Posts
    7,985

    Re: White House holds OFF-THE-RECORD briefing with reporters on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Go back and re-read the Thread.....since you have such a difficulty.
    I don't need to re-read the thread. If you post a link in direct response to me, I most likely read it (and replied to it). Please let me know which link you are referring to, and I'll be happy to address it, or address the fact I've already addressed it. It's your call, but I'm not going to try and read your mind. You need to be specific.

  7. #137
    Banned
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Last Seen
    12-08-13 @ 10:28 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    3,114

    Re: White House holds OFF-THE-RECORD briefing with reporters on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by Slyfox696 View Post
    I don't need to re-read the thread. If you post a link in direct response to me, I most likely read it (and replied to it). Please let me know which link you are referring to, and I'll be happy to address it, or address the fact I've already addressed it. It's your call, but I'm not going to try and read your mind. You need to be specific.
    You have shown a habit of ignoring anything that will remotely discredit any of your statements and continue to spew liberal arguments even after they have been proven time and time again to be false

    I will give you an example
    even after i posted evidence like this
    "Lt. Col. Gibson and his team were on their way to board a C-130 from Tripoli for Benghazi prior to an attack on a second U.S. compound " and " 'you can't go now, you don't have the authority to go now.' And so they missed the flight ... "

    you still want to claim help wasn't available and couldn't get there in time
    Last edited by trfjr; 05-14-13 at 05:42 PM.

  8. #138
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Where I am now
    Last Seen
    09-11-17 @ 03:00 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    16,386

    Re: White House holds OFF-THE-RECORD briefing with reporters on Benghazi

    Oh great - another overblown scandal that the Dems/Reps will use to try and get the Dem/Rep POTUS impeached.

    Seems to be a bi-yearly occurrence...no matter who is in power.

  9. #139
    Banned
    Join Date
    Feb 2013
    Last Seen
    12-08-13 @ 10:28 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Libertarian - Right
    Posts
    3,114

    Re: White House holds OFF-THE-RECORD briefing with reporters on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Oh great - another overblown scandal that the Dems/Reps will use to try and get the Dem/Rep POTUS impeached.

    Seems to be a bi-yearly occurrence...no matter who is in power.

    Sorry the attempts to dismiss this is not going to work even the lapdog media isn't dismissing it anymore

  10. #140
    Banned
    Join Date
    Jan 2012
    Location
    Where I am now
    Last Seen
    09-11-17 @ 03:00 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Independent
    Posts
    16,386

    Re: White House holds OFF-THE-RECORD briefing with reporters on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    Sorry the attempts to dismiss this is not going to work even the lapdog media isn't dismissing it anymore
    Where is the 'yawn' emoticon?

    This smacks of Rep sour grapes for losing last November to me.

    I am neither Dem nor Rep and I could care less about this.

    There are FAR more important issues facing America.

Page 14 of 16 FirstFirst ... 41213141516 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •