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    Re: White House holds OFF-THE-RECORD briefing with reporters on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    Was making up a fanciful story to get through an election a political ploy?
    Allow me to answer. It's a yes and no answer. Yes, it was a regrettable decision, and the people responsible at State have already been fired. No, this does not rise to the level of WH involvement, or even to the cabinet heads of the various departments, who I should add, are all out of office now. Please refer to the tomes I've already posted here to find additional answers, depending on the question. The election is over. What happened then has no relevance to what is happening now. (How am I doing?) Hillary hit her head, and can't remember much - why, she doesn't even remember the Rose Law Firm or Whitewater. Have some pity. Please? I'm just trying to employ a little logic and common sense here. That's something that's apparently foreign to you. Oh, and you're a liar, too.

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    Re: White House holds OFF-THE-RECORD briefing with reporters on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Allow me to answer. It's a yes and no answer. Yes, it was a regrettable decision, and the people responsible at State have already been fired. No, this does not rise to the level of WH involvement, or even to the cabinet heads of the various departments, who I should add, are all out of office now. Please refer to the tomes I've already posted here to find additional answers, depending on the question. The election is over. What happened then has no relevance to what is happening now. (How am I doing?) Hillary hit her head, and can't remember much - why, she doesn't even remember the Rose Law Firm or Whitewater. Have some pity. Please? I'm just trying to employ a little logic and common sense here. That's something that's apparently foreign to you. Oh, and you're a liar, too.
    Heya HB.....no one has been fired from the State or anywhere else. 2 resigned. and Charlene Lamb was removed to wait another post which was alleged to be a Higher post. That won't be happening Now. Also since now some are bringing out the Kenyan Embassy Incident which is almost identical with this one. Especially the part about lacking security.

    Also Nordstrom provided Issa with the Copy of the Communi-K that was sent Early the morning of the 12. Which was CC'd to another Dept as well. While Lamb decreased Security from the Second attack until the Anniversary Attack. That's another thing to do. Label the attack the Anniversary Attack. So that Press Picks it up and uses the term too.

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    Re: White House holds OFF-THE-RECORD briefing with reporters on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Heya HB.....no one has been fired from the State or anywhere else. 2 resigned. and Charlene Lamb was removed to wait another post which was alleged to be a Higher post. That won't be happening Now. Also since now some are bringing out the Kenyan Embassy Incident which is almost identical with this one. Especially the part about lacking security.

    Also Nordstrom provided Issa with the Copy of the Communi-K that was sent Early the morning of the 12. Which was CC'd to another Dept as well. While Lamb decreased Security from the Second attack until the Anniversary Attack. That's another thing to do. Label the attack the Anniversary Attack. So that Press Picks it up and uses the term too.
    Yes. Issa has pleasantly surprised me in this investigation. I was kidding about the firings. Some here maintained that Hicks was not demoted, so as long as we're redefining things to suit the argument, we might as well call the resignations firings. I mean, they're out of office, so what difference does it make?

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    Re: White House holds OFF-THE-RECORD briefing with reporters on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    By golly, you're right. Thanks. Pigs can fly.
    And Dowd surely has shown herself to be a strange one from time to time. Although I can't agree with everything she said, her article is worth the read, worth thinking about. So here's the link again: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/12/op...tal.html?_r=1&

    “It’s not true, it’s not true, it’s not true, it’s old news.”

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    Re: White House holds OFF-THE-RECORD briefing with reporters on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    And Dowd surely has shown herself to be a strange one from time to time. Although I can't agree with everything she said, her article is worth the read, worth thinking about. So here's the link again: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/12/op...tal.html?_r=1&

    “It’s not true, it’s not true, it’s not true, it’s old news.”
    It's bad news for the Obama administration when Dowd goes as far as she did in that piece. For her, this is a breech of faith with the elite in DC. The interesting thing is, and Dowd alludes to it, is that the failure of the military to be in a position to quickly respond was a deliberate position staked out by the administration - Hillary in particular. It seems that community organizing is not as warmly embraced in some areas of the world as it is here. That they - Defense, CIA, and State - dragged their feet at the start of the attack was a tacit admission that they weren't in a position to respond easily, and that inevitably delayed any significant response that might have been mounted until it was way too late.

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    Re: White House holds OFF-THE-RECORD briefing with reporters on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Yes. Issa has pleasantly surprised me in this investigation. I was kidding about the firings. Some here maintained that Hicks was not demoted, so as long as we're redefining things to suit the argument, we might as well call the resignations firings. I mean, they're out of office, so what difference does it make?
    Yeah, well like he said......he based it off the way he felt he was being treated after he began questioning about things. Now they will have to determine was he questioning things before he took the post he thought was a Demotion. Which there to, he said he based that off the conservations he had with people.

    Which why they try to explain away Hicks.....then there is Nordstrom.

    Here is what Hot Air has up.....even tho they are a R-Wing Source.

    Reason: Three reasons Benghazi matters
    posted at 4:41 pm on May 10, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

    With the lid coming off of what very clearly looks like an attempt to cover up the nature of the attack on our consulate in Benghazi, Obama administration apologists have stepped up their efforts to flood the debate with paraphrases of former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s attempt to shut down discussion of the White House response — “What difference at this point does it make?” One even tried to shift blame onto the House GOP for the altered talking points. Nick Gillespie at Reason offers three basic reasons that the US needs an investigation into the attack and the administration’s deliberate attempt to shift the focus from terrorism to a YouTube video:

    The final talking points eventually given to Rice reflected State’s concerns, but Carney told us that it’s all on the up-and-up because the changes were signed off on by the CIA.

    There’s a meatpacking-like quality to all this. You don’t really want to know how your hamburger is processed, do you? The administration’s defense — and it’s looking thinner than ice on a late spring pond — is that government bureaucracy is messy and multi-layered and that’s a big part of why Rice said what she did.

    Benghazi occurred seven weeks before election day. The administration’s strategy was simple: Downplay the terror attack, change the narrative, and run out the clock. And that’s what it did.

    But now the dam has burst. Carney’s “here at the White House” comment has essentially thrown Clinton under the bus. Republicans, who leaked the edited emails to Karl and Hayes, have succeeded on two fronts: They’ve got the administration on the defensive over Benghazi, and they’ve weakened the Democrat’s most formidable 2016 candidate.

    Actually, most of us are more concerned over the fact that this administration manipulated information about a terrorist attack to hide its nature during the election, to their advantage. That’s corruption on a very deep level.....snip~

    Reason: Three reasons Benghazi matters « Hot Air

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    Re: White House holds OFF-THE-RECORD briefing with reporters on Benghazi

    I am most concerned that four Americans lost their lives and that how this happened has been explained with deliberate, stupid lies. Ty Woods died on a rooftop waiting for help that never came, and I want to know why.

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    Re: White House holds OFF-THE-RECORD briefing with reporters on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Yeah, well like he said......he based it off the way he felt he was being treated after he began questioning about things. Now they will have to determine was he questioning things before he took the post he thought was a Demotion. Which there to, he said he based that off the conservations he had with people.

    Which why they try to explain away Hicks.....then there is Nordstrom.

    Here is what Hot Air has up.....even tho they are a R-Wing Source.

    Reason: Three reasons Benghazi matters
    posted at 4:41 pm on May 10, 2013 by Ed Morrissey

    With the lid coming off of what very clearly looks like an attempt to cover up the nature of the attack on our consulate in Benghazi, Obama administration apologists have stepped up their efforts to flood the debate with paraphrases of former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton’s attempt to shut down discussion of the White House response — “What difference at this point does it make?” One even tried to shift blame onto the House GOP for the altered talking points. Nick Gillespie at Reason offers three basic reasons that the US needs an investigation into the attack and the administration’s deliberate attempt to shift the focus from terrorism to a YouTube video:

    The final talking points eventually given to Rice reflected State’s concerns, but Carney told us that it’s all on the up-and-up because the changes were signed off on by the CIA.

    There’s a meatpacking-like quality to all this. You don’t really want to know how your hamburger is processed, do you? The administration’s defense — and it’s looking thinner than ice on a late spring pond — is that government bureaucracy is messy and multi-layered and that’s a big part of why Rice said what she did.

    Benghazi occurred seven weeks before election day. The administration’s strategy was simple: Downplay the terror attack, change the narrative, and run out the clock. And that’s what it did.

    But now the dam has burst. Carney’s “here at the White House” comment has essentially thrown Clinton under the bus. Republicans, who leaked the edited emails to Karl and Hayes, have succeeded on two fronts: They’ve got the administration on the defensive over Benghazi, and they’ve weakened the Democrat’s most formidable 2016 candidate.

    Actually, most of us are more concerned over the fact that this administration manipulated information about a terrorist attack to hide its nature during the election, to their advantage. That’s corruption on a very deep level.....snip~

    Reason: Three reasons Benghazi matters « Hot Air
    That's a pretty good assessment, especially coming from Hot Air. Thanks. What I've noted is that this whole event had more players than the administration could control. Whoa! Obama is on air explaining Benghazi, and the talking points are a side show, or so he says. And it does appear that the WH is in fact willing to throw Hillary under the bus. And Obama maintains that the assessment that Rice delivered on TV was exactly the same as the one he received for days after the event in his daily briefing. Imagine that. The talking points that were delivered to Rice were also delivered to Obama! How in the world would that happen?

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    Re: White House holds OFF-THE-RECORD briefing with reporters on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    That's a pretty good assessment, especially coming from Hot Air. Thanks. What I've noted is that this whole event had more players than the administration could control. Whoa! Obama is on air explaining Benghazi, and the talking points are a side show, or so he says. And it does appear that the WH is in fact willing to throw Hillary under the bus. And Obama maintains that the assessment that Rice delivered on TV was exactly the same as the one he received for days after the event in his daily briefing. Imagine that. The talking points that were delivered to Rice were also delivered to Obama! How in the world would that happen?
    The even better one is Rice being caught up In Kenya doing the Same exact thing as here.....plus Petraeus told King in Closed Door testimony. He changed things to what was already acceptable. He didn't have anything to do with whoever changed Rices talking points. So Someone changed them somewhere.

    Now another Whistleblower steps forward. Which I wonder if it is Lt Col Wood. I don't know why when I put up the copy of the PDF files that were sent to the Overcite Committee they wont stay up an then turn into little black boxes here. As I had Up Woods letter and what he stated about Himself thinking he had to bring this out too.

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    Re: White House holds OFF-THE-RECORD briefing with reporters on Benghazi

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    Allow me to answer. It's a yes and no answer. Yes, it was a regrettable decision, and the people responsible at State have already been fired. No, this does not rise to the level of WH involvement, or even to the cabinet heads of the various departments, who I should add, are all out of office now. Please refer to the tomes I've already posted here to find additional answers, depending on the question. The election is over. What happened then has no relevance to what is happening now.
    (How am I doing?)
    Hillary hit her head, and can't remember much - why, she doesn't even remember the Rose Law Firm or Whitewater. Have some pity. Please? I'm just trying to employ a little logic and common sense here. That's something that's apparently foreign to you. Oh, and you're a liar, too.
    Very well done.
    You must be closely attuned to know how these things always work ... actually, being merely conscious and not a low information voter might be enough.

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