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    Re: BBC, After Benghazi revelations, heads will roll

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    It's about diplomacy. If we landed a huge invasion force to save 4 people, a lot more than 4 people would have died. Ambassadors know that it can be risky, especially in a place like Libya.
    It had nothing to do with diplomacy and every thing to do with the election. Obama had a narrative he had to keep alive that terrorism was defeated and how could he blame it on a video if he sent troops in? how would it look if he used military force over some protest over a you tube video

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    Re: BBC, After Benghazi revelations, heads will roll

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    This "don't hit, talk" on a geopolitical spectrum is bull****...
    Actually, that's why we're both alive. The Cuban Missile Crisis, and countless times before the fall of the Soviet Union anything could have happened if we just nuked everybody.


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    Re: BBC, After Benghazi revelations, heads will roll

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    I have to disagree with that. I think this tragedy is the result of us going into Libya in the first damn place. If we hadn't done that, this would have never happened.
    That I agree with, I never knew why in the hell we want to bomb the crab out of Libya. Oh wait, it was for OIL.
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    Re: BBC, After Benghazi revelations, heads will roll

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    It's about diplomacy. If we landed a huge invasion force to save 4 people, a lot
    more than 4 people would have died. Ambassadors know that it can be risky, especially in a place like Libya.
    Thats just retarded.

    A desperate attempt to justify the criminal actions of the Obama administration.

    Do you know the first thing about our current military capabillity ? Or are you making sh** up so you can keep supporting Obama and it not effect your beuty rest ?

    One of the guys who flew their HAD TIME to laser one of the TERRORIST positions.

    Do you have the slightest understanding of what that means ?

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    Re: BBC, After Benghazi revelations, heads will roll

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    I have to disagree with that. I think this tragedy is the result of us going into Libya in the first damn place. If we hadn't done that, this would have never happened.
    "Going into Libya?"

    It was an embassy - benevolent.

    There are plenty of foreign embassies here in the US.

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    Re: BBC, After Benghazi revelations, heads will roll

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    Diplomacy my ass, and what huge invasion force are you talking about?

    Ambassadors know it can be risky, especially in a place like Libya. Now tell me is Hillery too stupid to know that. So she is too stupid to keep our embassies safe especially in a place like Libya. Her political career is over, she's too stupid.
    Keeping the premises safe was the responsibility of the Libyans

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    2.The receiving State is under a special duty to take all appropriate steps to protect the premises
    of the mission against any intrusion or damage and to prevent any disturbance of the peace of the
    mission or impairment of its dignity


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    Re: BBC, After Benghazi revelations, heads will roll

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    BBC News - After Benghazi revelations, heads will roll

    "This is the first hard evidence that the state department did ask for changes to the CIA's original assessment.

    Specifically, they wanted references to previous warnings deleted and this sentence removed: "We do know that Islamic extremists with ties to al-Qa'ida participated in the attack."

    There's little doubt in my mind that this will haunt Hillary Clinton if she decides to run for president, unless she executes some pretty fancy footwork.

    State department spokesperson Victoria Nuland is directly implicated, and the fingerprints of senior White House aides Ben Rhodes and Jay Carney are there as well."


    so even foreign news organizations are coming around and realizing it is a cover up and apologizing for dismissing it at first
    Time will tell. So far I have seen nothing to get overly excited about or to jump to the president defense. Better for all to sit back and let this play out before jumping to a ton of different conclusions.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: BBC, After Benghazi revelations, heads will roll

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Actually, that's why we're both alive. The Cuban Missile Crisis, and countless times before the fall of the Soviet Union anything could have happened if we just nuked everybody.
    WHAT????? The Cuban Missile Crisis wasn't ended due to "diplomacy" - we caught Russia red handed setting up nuclear bases in Cuba via U2 spy plane photos, drilled them about them while they denied it entirely then after they did we presented them with the photos and made the USSR look like total jackasses in front of the world....

    Humility and deception is what ceased the Cuban missile crisis - no diplomacy involved.

    Kennedy would have blown Cuba off the map if he could -- yeah, go read about all his loony ideas on how to invade Cuba, attack Cuba, assassinate Castro etc.... Kennedy was hardly diplomatic.

    As far as the USSR, they had no desire to bomb us or attack us after the Cuban Missile Crisis -- after that both sides were weary about each others intentions.

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    Re: BBC, After Benghazi revelations, heads will roll

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    Keeping the premises safe was the responsibility of the Libyans

    http://untreaty.un.org/ilc/texts/ins...s/9_1_1961.pdf
    Rockett, I have seen time and time again over 46 years of active duty or working for the army as a civilian, the State Department turn down extra security. They turn it down even when the threat is very real. State thinks their job is diplomacy and visa’s, talk and they also think have a bunch of military around them, who’s job in State’s perception is to kill people and break things deters them from doing their job.

    So did State turn down more security even if asked by an Ambassador, it wouldn’t surprise me. State has done this throughout many, many administrations going back to LBJ for me. It is the mentality of the State Department, diplomacy over security. At least that has been my personal experience.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: BBC, After Benghazi revelations, heads will roll

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    WHAT????? The Cuban Missile Crisis wasn't ended due to "diplomacy" - we caught Russia red handed setting up nuclear bases in Cuba via U2 spy plane photos, drilled them about them while they denied it entirely then after they did we presented them with the photos and made the USSR look like total jackasses in front of the world....

    Humility and deception is what ceased the Cuban missile crisis - no diplomacy involved.

    Kennedy would have blown Cuba off the map if he could -- yeah, go read about all his loony ideas on how to invade Cuba, attack Cuba, assassinate Castro etc.... Kennedy was hardly diplomatic.

    As far as the USSR, they had no desire to bomb us or attack us after the Cuban Missile Crisis -- after that both sides were weary about each others intentions.

    Kennedy had plenty of plans about assassinating Castro.

    The point is if we just went blowing things up because we felt like it, we wouldn't be here. And if you think diplomacy was in no way involved in diffusing the Cuban Missile Crisis, consider this:

    On Saturday evening, after a day of tense discussions within the "ExComm" or Executive Committee of senior advisers, President Kennedy decided on a dual strategy—a formal letter to Khrushchev accepting the implicit terms of his October 26 letter (a U.S. non-invasion pledge in exchange for the verifiable departure of Soviet nuclear missiles), coupled with private assurances to Khrushchev that the United States would speedily take out its missiles from Turkey, but only on the basis of a secret understanding, not as an open agreement that would appear to the public, and to NATO allies, as a concession to blackmail. The U.S. president elected to transmit this sensitive message through his brother, Attorney General Robert F. Kennedy, who met in his office at the Justice Department with Soviet ambassador Anatoly Dobrynin.
    The Cuban Missile Crisis, 1962: Anatomy of a Controversey


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