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    Re: IRS apologizes for inappropriately targeting conservative political groups [W:484

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    No one is arguing that conservatives weren't targeted, and everyone agrees that it is wrong.

    However, groups with conservative keywords were also ridiculously likely to need investigation. At least 82% of conservative groups were properly investigated. That compares to 6% of other groups.

    That means if you're looking through a stack of paper and you see conservative buzz words, there's a REALLY good chance that the group needs to be investigated. On the other hand, if the application doesn't have conservative sounding words, it's pretty unlikely that it will need to be investigated.

    Imagine that you have to sort through 1000 Ikea packages to find 60 that are missing parts. To do the job right, you need to open up each package and count every little screw, nut, and washer. However, you also know that there are a 21 packages painted florescent yellow, and they're mostly all wrong. In fact 17 all of the florescent yellow packages have missing parts.

    You pick up the next package and find that it's bright yellow. Human nature says that you're going to count the number of washers a few more times than you would for a plain package.

    Yes it's wrong, but it's also understandable.
    What makes you think that these groups were as you put it, "...ridiculously likely to need investigation."? You refer to "keywords", well we have that list from the IRS that they were using....

    "The report by the Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration described in detail the use of “inappropriate criteria” to screen political advocacy groups. An IRS unit created a “lookout” list for organizations with keywords such as “tea party” or “patriot” in their names."

    IG report: ?Inappropriate criteria? stalled IRS approvals of conservative groups - Washington Post

    "The Internal Revenue Service's scrutiny of conservative groups went beyond those with "tea party" or "patriot" in their names—as the agency admitted Friday—to also include ones worried about government spending, debt or taxes, and even ones that lobbied to "make America a better place to live," according to new details of a government probe."

    Wider Problems Found at IRS - WSJ.com

    What about those words, or phrases, other than pure ideology leads you to believe that they need extra scrutiny over say a group with "progress" in their name?
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    Re: IRS apologizes for inappropriately targeting conservative political groups [W:484

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    I accept your de facto concession that you have no evidence.
    You cannot accept that which has not been proferred. I really don't get the beta-male schtick I see too frequently here on DP about "I accept your de facto concession" anyway, but let's just stick to the facts. You said, "The burden of proof is on you. Where is your evidence that there was a plot to attack conservatives for political purposes??" Where did I post that I think there is a plot?

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    Re: IRS apologizes for inappropriately targeting conservative political groups [W:484

    If no crime exists here, and everything is on the up and up with the IRS in this, then why is Lerner taking the 5th?

    "WASHINGTON — A top IRS official in the division that reviews nonprofit groups will invoke the 5th Amendment and refuse to answer questions before a House committee investigating the agency’s improper screening of conservative nonprofit groups.

    Lois Lerner, the head of the exempt organizations division of the IRS, won’t answer questions about what she knew about the improper screening — or why she didn’t disclose it to Congress, according to a letter from her defense lawyer, William W. Taylor III. Lerner was scheduled to appear before the House Oversight Committee on Wednesday."

    Top IRS official will invoke 5th Amendment - latimes.com
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    Re: IRS apologizes for inappropriately targeting conservative political groups [W:484

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Well then why is Lois Lerner pleading the 5th in the morning ?

    If it's just about collecting taxes that is.
    Because there is a republican witch hunt going on.

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    Re: IRS apologizes for inappropriately targeting conservative political groups [W:484

    If there really is a witch hunt, then I hope Lerner will change her mind and be a warrior for the truth.

    Pretty sure, however, that she's not going to be able to explain away Maxwell's forced "reassignment."

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    Re: IRS apologizes for inappropriately targeting conservative political groups in 201

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    I deny that, there is no way congress could raise a sales tax rate without most people knowing about it
    and there is no federal sales tax....
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    Re: IRS apologizes for inappropriately targeting conservative political groups [W:484

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    If there really is a witch hunt, then I hope Lerner will change her mind and be a warrior for the truth.

    Pretty sure, however, that she's not going to be able to explain away Maxwell's forced "reassignment."
    In a witch hunt the truth is irrelevant. To point is to burn the witch.

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    Re: IRS apologizes for inappropriately targeting conservative political groups [W:484

    Perhaps Lerner is a witch.

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    Re: IRS apologizes for inappropriately targeting conservative political groups [W:484

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Because there is a republican witch hunt going on.
    If she's not a witch no need for the 5th...of course, I could be wrong.

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    Re: IRS apologizes for inappropriately targeting conservative political groups [W:484

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    If there really is a witch hunt, then I hope Lerner will change her mind and be a warrior for the truth.

    Pretty sure, however, that she's not going to be able to explain away Maxwell's forced "reassignment."
    Speaking of scapegoat Ray Maxwell ... let's hope he wields a silver hammer.



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