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    Re: IRS apologizes for inappropriately targeting conservative political groups in 201

    so many words, so few links

    everyone has a mere opinion, what makes you think yours is any better, narcissus?

    read:

    The Internal Revenue Service official in charge of the tax-exempt organizations at the time when the unit targeted tea party groups now runs the IRS office responsible for the health care legislation.

    Sarah Hall Ingram served as commissioner of the office responsible for tax-exempt organizations between 2009 and 2012. But Ingram has since left that part of the IRS and is now the director of the IRS’ Affordable Care Act office, the IRS confirmed to ABC News today.

    Her successor, Joseph Grant, is taking the fall for misdeeds at the scandal-plagued unit between 2010 and 2012. During at least part of that time, Grant served as deputy commissioner of the tax-exempt unit.

    Grant announced today that he would retire June 3, despite being appointed as commissioner of the tax-exempt office May 8, a week ago.
    IRS Official in Charge During Tea Party Targeting Now Runs Health Care Office - ABC News

    why did miller resign, why did grant?

    why, how was ms ingram moved to director of irs-obamacare?

    curiouser and curiouser

    there will be a special prosecutor, this will take years, folks taking falls are often forthcoming...

    stay tuned

    in other words, if you radically increased your link-to-word ratio, it would force you to know what you're talking about

    shut up and read

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    Re: IRS apologizes for inappropriately targeting conservative political groups in 201

    chris matthews, who has been ripping the white house for 3 days, is right now tearing jay carney to shreds

    how can the president again and again say he learned in the news---the irs, the ap, fast and furious?

    shouldn't he know things before he reads them in the paper?

    why can't he say unequivocally that he did not know the irs was going after tea partiers for two years?

    President Obama said Thursday he had no knowledge about a report concerning controversial IRS practices under investigation until news outlets reported on the subject last Friday, and he vowed to "fix" problems plaguing the agency through a comprehensive examination of what happened and how.

    "I can assure you that I certainly did not know anything about the [inspector general] report before the I.G. report had been leaked" to the press, Mr. Obama said Thursday, during a rainy press conference in the White House Rose Garden with Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan.
    Obama: I didn't know about IRS report - CBS News

    even you have to appreciate that if the president could say he knew nothing about the CRIMINAL BEHAVIOR the irs was engaged in for 2 years, he very loudly and clearly would

    that he didn't deny knowledge of irs unevenness, that he stated instead that he knew naught of the ig report, speaks volumes

    matthews is mindful of this admission

    steven miller (you don't know who that is) testifies in ways and means tomorrow, under oath, no fifth...

    stay tuned

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    Re: IRS apologizes for inappropriately targeting conservative political groups in 201

    President Barack Obama dismissed calls for the appointment of a special prosecutor to investigate the IRS scandal, and evaded a question asking if White House officials knew of the IRS targeting of conservative political groups.

    “I can assure that I certainly did not know anything about the report before the IG report had been leaked through the press,” he told reporters during a Thursday lunchtime press conference held in the White House Rose Garden.

    Obama’s evasion will likely spur public suspicions that White House officials knew about, or even supported, the IRS targeting.
    Obama evades question on White House knowledge of IRS targeting | The Daily Caller

    at this point, he should call for a special prosecutor

    but he can't, it's just not in his dna

    he cannot prevent the truth, he can only impede

    he guarantees the scandal lengthens and deepens thereby

    more power to him, of course

    you need to run away

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    Re: IRS apologizes for inappropriately targeting conservative political groups in 201

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    Exactly what do you say that is not standard talking points? Mithros is dead on. Up until the end of GWB's first trime I was pretty durn conservative myself. Actually GWB just finished off my Republicanness. It is not just the RW platform sliding further right all the time it is the craziness, silliness and double standards that just make it impossible for any thinking person to deal with it.
    Talking points:

    -anytime you lose an elections its impeach impeach impeach
    -crazies on the left aren't as bad as crazies on the right
    -Bush did a bunch of bad things
    -conservatives were silent
    -Obama is the most transparent, cleanest president in history
    -obamas under a microscope like no other

    I can go on and on, but come on, these are the same platitudes we hear every day from the left. All he missed was that conservatives hate Obama because their racist.

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    Re: IRS apologizes for inappropriately targeting conservative political groups in 201

    Obama isn't going to be impeached. Even the Republicans aren't stupid enough to try to impeach the first black President.
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    Re: IRS apologizes for inappropriately targeting conservative political groups in 201

    If talking points are true, are they still talking points?
    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    Talking points:

    -anytime you lose an elections its impeach impeach impeach
    -crazies on the left aren't as bad as crazies on the right
    -Bush did a bunch of bad things
    -conservatives were silent
    -Obama is the most transparent, cleanest president in history
    -obamas under a microscope like no other

    I can go on and on, but come on, these are the same platitudes we hear every day from the left. All he missed was that conservatives hate Obama because their racist.
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    Re: IRS apologizes for inappropriately targeting conservative political groups in 201

    But race has nuthin to do with it....
    Quote Originally Posted by Heebie Jeebie View Post
    Obama isn't going to be impeached. Even the Republicans aren't stupid enough to try to impeach the first black President.
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    Re: IRS apologizes for inappropriately targeting conservative political groups in 201

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    But race has nuthin to do with it....
    I does in this case. Can you imagine the sh*t storm for trying to impeach the first black President without overwhelming evidence of treason or something like that? Impeach him over an IRS scandal? Even the Republicans aren't that stupid.
    There is only one basic human right, the right to do as you damn well please. And with it comes the only basic human duty, the duty to take the consequences.
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    Re: IRS apologizes for inappropriately targeting conservative political groups in 201

    Quote Originally Posted by Mithros View Post
    Seriously, what is it with some of you conservatives? Anytime you lose an
    election it's IMPEACH IMPEACH IMPEACH. Yeah there are crazies on the left, but not nearly as many or as bad.

    I was a conservative during the Clinton years, and I followed all of the supposed scandals. Then Bush took office and many of the same things happened. Conservatives were silent. Then worse things happened.... Still silence. Obama takes office and its IMPEACH IMPAEACH IMPEACH.

    It's just not credible. Like him, hate him, whatever, objectively he's run the cleanest administration in a generation. Most effective, ehhhh. But certainly the cleanest, most scandal free. And yes, that's objective.

    The Obama administration has been held under a microscope like no other. You think tea party groups had to provide “too much” information to the IRS. What about Fast and Furious? What about Benghazi? What about every other supposed scandal that starts out by with the House Republicans clambering about impeachable offenses because they suspect that something may exist in some document that they don't yet have even though they have no evidence to suggest that any such thing exists.

    This is like saying, if Fenton murdered someone we'll be sure to send him straight to jail. How could he possibly think that he could get away with murder. I know he hasn't turned himself in, but if we can pin this charge on him, then we'll be sure to take him to trial. Granted, we have no evidence that Fenton did anything, but we also don't have all of the information yet.
    You were never a Conservative.

    Conservatives are principled people who don't change their ideology to suite the weather.

    You may have thought you were at one time when in reality you simply misunderstood the definition of the word.

    I always call BS on liberals when they tell me they morphed out of Conservatism. For one thing its backwards.

    Remember the saying ? If your young and Conservative you have no heart, if your'e old and Liberal you have no brain.

    Look Conservatism is a ideology defined by truth, Liberalism is " Truth " defined by ideology, so chances are you were always Liberal because the truth is a constant.......unless of course your'e a Democrat.

    I meam your statement that Obama's administration is the " cleanest " ? THAT'S a little frightening.

    If someone I knew told me that we would be in hot pursuit of the nearest MRI because my suspicion woulf be a brain tumor has clouded their judgment.

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    Re: IRS apologizes for inappropriately targeting conservative political groups in 201

    I was at one point very conservative/republican, you know, back in the day when it was the party of morals and ethics. We could discuss the Repubs leadership and how they are subverted for cash, I really cant sit here and think of a single issue the RW does not come down on the side of business and corporations, morals and ethics be damned. BUt the very biggest thing I think of when I lament the decline of the Republican party is the emails. I know it is not that big a deal, I can delete them. My family and friends send them to me all the time in hopes of converting me back. There are so many that twist some shred of truth so far it is really an outright lie, but it started with some shred of truth. So many others are outright lies from the get go. They send me these emails and I used to send back proof they were outright lies that were easy to prove, and they kept sending them around anyway even though they know it is a lie. I remember when honesty meant something to the republicans. These people are the base of the republican party. They lie and know they lie. They have talking heads and an entire news networks to lie to them to them, knowing full well the truth is out there, but they dont wanna spread know. NO dont tell me, the conservatives are principled. The only principle I can see they have stuck to is big buisness. No, it is not truth that defines the conservatives.
    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    You were never a Conservative.

    Conservatives are principled people who don't change their ideology to suite the weather.

    You may have thought you were at one time when in reality you simply misunderstood the definition of the word.

    I always call BS on liberals when they tell me they morphed out of Conservatism. For one thing its backwards.

    Remember the saying ? If your young and Conservative you have no heart, if your'e old and Liberal you have no brain.

    Look Conservatism is a ideology defined by truth, Liberalism is " Truth " defined by ideology, so chances are you were always Liberal because the truth is a constant.......unless of course your'e a Democrat.

    I meam your statement that Obama's administration is the " cleanest " ? THAT'S a little frightening.

    If someone I knew told me that we would be in hot pursuit of the nearest MRI because my suspicion woulf be a brain tumor has clouded their judgment.
    God Bless the Marine Corps.

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