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    Re: IRS apologizes for inappropriately targeting conservative political groups in 201

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    I don't think that's actually the case. By definition, 501(c)(4) groups CAN have a predominantly political purpose. The distinction between the two is that 527s are formed with the purpose of influencing elections.
    But isn't influencing elections the primary purpose of the Tea Party?


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    Re: IRS apologizes for inappropriately targeting conservative political groups in 201

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    I don't think that's actually the case. By definition, 501(c)(4) groups CAN have a predominantly political purpose. The distinction between the two is that 527s are formed with the purpose of influencing elections.
    A 501(c)(4) organization is allowed to participate in a limited amount of political activity so long as it is not the primary purpose of the organization. For example, the NRA is free to run adds, lobby, and engage in politics, but we would not say that the NRA's primary purpose was political.

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    Re: IRS apologizes for inappropriately targeting conservative political groups in 201

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    But isn't influencing elections the primary purpose of the Tea Party?
    No, the "Tea Party" is not a political party but an ideology.

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    Re: IRS apologizes for inappropriately targeting conservative political groups in 201

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    But isn't influencing elections the primary purpose of the Tea Party?
    There is no such thing as the Tea Party. There are groups that call themselves Tea Party whatever, and have a variety of purposes, which usually follow the "tea party movement" of opposing more taxation.

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    Re: IRS apologizes for inappropriately targeting conservative political groups in 201

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    No, the "Tea Party" is not a political party but an ideology.
    That fails to pass the sniff test. The Tea Party is not at all non-political, unlike the NRA which is pro-gun rights and education. Tea Party is strictly a political entity. Them saying otherwise is a ruse that the IRS was right to explore further. However, the IRS should not have lied to Congress.

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    Re: IRS apologizes for inappropriately targeting conservative political groups in 201

    Quote Originally Posted by Taylor View Post
    No, the "Tea Party" is not a political party but an ideology.
    So these organizations aren't trying to influence elections at all? I know you want to see them as wonderful and above the fray, but from what I've seen they're pretty active participants in democracy.


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    Re: IRS apologizes for inappropriately targeting conservative political groups in 201

    Quote Originally Posted by jonny5 View Post
    There is no such thing as the Tea Party. There are groups that call themselves Tea Party whatever, and have a variety of purposes, which usually follow the "tea party movement" of opposing more taxation.
    And these groups attempt to influence elections, do they not?

    I'm with you that the IRS was wrong to single them out, but let's at least be honest about what the purpose of these groups is.


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    Re: IRS apologizes for inappropriately targeting conservative political groups in 201

    usa today yesterday

    In the 27 months that the Internal Revenue Service put a hold on all Tea Party applications for non-profit status, it approved applications from similar liberal groups, a USA TODAY review of IRS data shows.

    As applications from conservative groups sat in limbo, groups with obviously liberal names were approved in as little as nine months. With names including words like "Progress" or "Progressive," these groups applied for the same tax status and were engaged in the same kinds of activities as the conservative groups.
    IRS gave liberals a pass; Tea Party groups put on hold

    there will be no avoiding the appointment of a special prosecutor

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    Re: IRS apologizes for inappropriately targeting conservative political groups in 201

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    usa today yesterday



    IRS gave liberals a pass; Tea Party groups put on hold

    there will be no avoiding the appointment of a special prosecutor
    The only question I have, which is unanswered here, is did the TP groups answer the same questions as the progressive groups? Did they answer the questions, or did they not answer them?

    Now if the questions were the same and the TP groups didn't answer...well that's different then.


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    Re: IRS apologizes for inappropriately targeting conservative political groups in 201

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    And these groups attempt to influence
    elections, do they not?

    I'm with you that the IRS was wrong to single them out, but let's at least be honest about what the purpose of these groups is.
    Its the purpose of any PAC left or right to influence elections.

    The issue id that right wing political action groups were singled out as left wing groups were passed through.

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