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    Re: IRS apologizes for inappropriately targeting conservative political groups in 201

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Too many potential problems involved. Too many people would be required, and it only takes one with ethics to blow the plan.

    what was done is not just unethical but illegal. im sure the threat of a criminal conviction will get most to talk

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    Re: IRS apologizes for inappropriately targeting conservative political groups in 201

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    what was done is not just unethical but illegal. im sure the threat of a criminal conviction will get most to talk
    Agreed.

    For now, I think the IRS should be given first crack at disciplining and dispelling employees.

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    Re: IRS apologizes for inappropriately targeting conservative political groups in 201

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Agreed.

    For now, I think the IRS should be given first crack at disciplining and dispelling employees.
    you are under the assumption this is just a incident localizes from one IRS office. I feel it goes up much higher then that. Congress needs to contact those low level workers and find out who gave them those marching orders and guarantee immunity from a criminal charge if they cooperate, and keep going up the chain of command tell it reaches the top. because if you just leave it up to the IRS it wouldn't go any further then those local low level workers

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    Re: IRS apologizes for inappropriately targeting conservative political groups in 201

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    you are under the assumption this is just a incident localizes from one IRS office. I feel it goes up much higher then that. Congress needs to contact those low level workers and find out who gave them those marching orders and guarantee immunity from a criminal charge if they cooperate, and keep going up the chain of command tell it reaches the top. because if you just leave it up to the IRS it wouldn't go any further then those local low level workers
    I'm not assuming any particular thing as certain. I just believe it all stems from human behavior at the individual level, and I don't think any wrongdoing was ordered. It is possible, but I find it less likely since any supervisor would know they could be fired for such actions.

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    Re: IRS apologizes for inappropriately targeting conservative political groups in 201

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    Apology is not sufficient. Anyone involved should be criminally prosecuted for civil rights violations and official oppression. The IRS should be sued for civil damages.
    Under Clintoon the Heritage Foundation and the NRA-among others-were subjected to bogus and harassing IRS investigations. ANother reason to abolish the income tax



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    Re: IRS apologizes for inappropriately targeting conservative political groups in 201

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    I'm not assuming any particular thing as certain. I just believe it all stems from human behavior at the individual level, and I don't think any wrongdoing was ordered. It is possible, but I find it less likely since any supervisor would know they could be fired for such actions.
    It is much more believable that orders was given from higher ups to target those groups for political gains then some rogue local workers for ideological reasons
    Last edited by trfjr; 05-11-13 at 12:29 AM.

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    Re: IRS apologizes for inappropriately targeting conservative political groups in 201

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    It is much more believable that orders was given to target those groups for political gains then some rogue local workers for ideological reasons
    Looks like we disagree. I think there would be whistle blowers if such orders were given. Have you read of any?

    Regardless, any of the people who abuse such positions need to be fired.

    Do you agree with that?

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    Re: IRS apologizes for inappropriately targeting conservative political groups in 201

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Looks like we disagree. I think there would be whistle blowers if such orders were given. Have you read of any?

    Regardless, any of the people who abuse such positions need to be fired.

    Do you agree with that?
    people don't blow the whistle unless they have something to gain or to protect or they have an ax to grind very few do it out of conscience remember we are talking about the IRS they don't have a conscience

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    Re: IRS apologizes for inappropriately targeting conservative political groups in 201

    Quote Originally Posted by trfjr View Post
    people don't blow the whistle unless they have something to gain or to protect or they have an ax to grind very few do it out of conscience remember we are talking about the IRS they don't have a conscience
    LOL...

    OK, you win...

    You got me there...

    LOL...

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    Re: IRS apologizes for inappropriately targeting conservative political groups in 201

    Regardless of who is responsible/ how high this goes, an investigation needs to occur, and a lawsuit by the parties involved would not be unwarranted. This kind of behavior by a government agency is completely unacceptable.
    One who makes himself a worm cannot complain when tread upon.

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