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    Re: Stevens Went To Benghazi So Clinton Could Announce A Permanent Post; ARB Omits

    Quote Originally Posted by radioman View Post
    A smart pol like Clinton would never allow her presidential ambitions to be derailed by a security breach.
    This may be beyond her ability to "let." She asked the wrong question: "What difference does it make?"

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    Re: Stevens Went To Benghazi So Clinton Could Announce A Permanent Post; ARB Omits

    I don't think this was the first time that Ambassador Stevens was in Benghazi, nor do I think it was inappropriate for Secretary Clinton to want to establish a permanent post in Benghazi. From what I've heard and read about Ambassador Stevens, I'm pretty sure he would have been the one pushing for it too because of his love of the Libyan people.

    That said, choosing the anniversary of 9/11 was a critical mistake. It has been well known since 2001 that anniversaries of 9/11 are times for America and its satelites around the world to be on high alert with maximum security with the view that this day was just as important to Al Qaeda as it is to America. It was foolish of Ambassador Stevens and whomever was planning security for the trip to choose this day with such a limited security presence.

    The issues for me still remain the apparent lack of concern in the White House and with the State Department with what was happening on the ground in Benghazi while Ambassador Stevens and his staff were under attack - the disregard for their lives, almost as if they were collateral damage to be expected - and the flat out lies to the American people in an attempt to fool them into thinking the attack was something it wasn't for the sole purpose of protecting the President's reelection campaign and foreign policy messaging.
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    Re: Stevens Went To Benghazi So Clinton Could Announce A Permanent Post; ARB Omits

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    LOL!

    i wonder if pickering and mullen would be willing to tesitfy

    y'know, under oath
    Mullens and Pickering already testified to a Senate committee back in December...but they said they wanted to testify at the oversight committee hearings too, but Issa won't let them.

    cnn: "on september 10, at least 18 hours before the attack, al qaeda leader ayman al zawahiri called for attacks on americans in libya to avenge the death of al libi"

    on september 14, aqap "released a statement arguing the attack was revenge for the death of abu yahya al libi, a senior al qaeda operative, in pakistan in june 2012," notes cnn

    in other words, it wasn't a video, it was a drone

    Sources: 3 al Qaeda operatives took part in Benghazi attack - CNN.com

    coincidence?
    No more of a coincidence than the protests in Cairo against the video just hours before the attack in Benghazi. Hicks was watching it on TV when Ambassador Stevens called to tell him the SMC was under attack....coincidence?

    "...As the Intelligence Community collects and analyzes more information related to the attack, our understanding of the event continues to evolve. In the immediate aftermath, there was information that led us to assess that the attack began spontaneously following protests earlier that day at our embassy in Cairo. We provided that initial assessment to Executive Branch officials and members of Congress, who used that information to discuss the attack publicly and provide updates as they became available. Throughout our investigation we continued to emphasize that information gathered was preliminary and evolving...."

    Furthermore, it was Muslim extremists that attacked the compound, not Al Qaeda....

    "...As we learned more about the attack, we revised our initial assessment to reflect new information indicating that it was a deliberate and organized terrorist attack carried out by extremists. It remains unclear if any group or person exercised overall command and control of the attack, and if extremist group leaders directed their members to participate. However, we do assess that some of those involved were linked to groups affiliated with, or sympathetic to al-Qa'ida. We continue to make progress, but there remain many unanswered questions. As more information becomes available our analysis will continue to evolve and we will obtain a more complete understanding of the circumstances surrounding the terrorist attack....read..."
    Statement by the Director of Public Affairs for ODNI, Shawn Turner, on the intelligence related to the terrorist attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya


    why did ambassador rice duplicitously point to a video when even the sterilized talking points, scrubbed assiduously the nite before by state spokespeople on behalf of "building leadership," dared not charge that bridge so far?

    The Benghazi Talking Points | The Weekly Standard
    I don't think Rice was trying to cover anything up. She was given those talking points...so the person to ask might be Gen. Patraeus...who was head of CIA at the time. Unfortunately, his testimony was in private...BUT..... Rep. King said Patraeus contradicted himself during the private testimony from statements he had previously made....

    "...He also stated that he thought all along he made it clear that there were significant terrorist involvement, and that is not my recollection of what he told us on September 14," King said....<snip>....

    King said that unclassified talking points about the attack prepared by the CIA for use by lawmakers, and apparently relied on by Rice, originally pointed specifically to al Qaeda involvement, but were edited before being cleared for use.

    "The original talking points were much more specific about al Qaeda involvement. And the final ones just said, ‘indications of extremists,'" King said.

    He quoted Petraeus as saying that officials did not realize the significance of the change at the time, "and that for an unclassified statement, this was acceptable."

    'BLAME IT ON US' .....read....."

    In Benghazi testimony, Petraeus says al Qaeda role known early | Reuters


    why was ambassador hicks directed NOT to talk to congressman chaffetz in libya?
    Because Chaffetz is a political hack and not interested in the truth. One minute he's praising the ARB report because it agreed with his agenda and then the next minute he's condeming it because it didn't and then the next minute he's praising it again......

    Watch A GOP Rep Change His Position On Libya Review Three Times In 10 Seconds | ThinkProgress .

    and why in this white house must expediency always trump national interest, security and the truth?
    I dunno, why did Romney verbally assault the United States just hours after the attack and before all the information was in? Kinda makes you wonder who our real enemies are?

    the e-warriors are back at it:

    Exclusive: Benghazi Talking Points Underwent 12 Revisions, Scrubbed of Terror Reference - ABC News

    seeya at the committee, comrades bring a sofabed, it's gonna be a while
    lol Funny you should say that because Chaffetz does sleep on a sofabed in his office...mainly because he's too cheap to rent an apartment.

    Here's a good time line for the aftermath of Benghazi.....

    UPDATED: What Everyone Should Know About The Benghazi Attack | ThinkProgress

    The political hacks on FoxNews didn't waste anytime spewing out the misinformation, did they?
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    Re: Stevens Went To Benghazi So Clinton Could Announce A Permanent Post; ARB Omits

    they said they wanted to testify at the oversight committee hearings too, but Issa won't let them
    LOL!

    Oversight Chairman Darrell Issa noted at the beginning of the hearing that Accountability Review Board co-chairman Pickering and Mullen refused to testify to the committee or even informally talk to it.

    “On February 22nd, this committee wrote to Ambassador Pickering and Admiral Mullen, who, as required by law, were appointed by Secretary Clinton and co-chair the accountability review board investigation,” said Chairman Issa. “We asked them to testify about their investigation and findings. They refused, and our minority said nothing.

    “When we asked Ambassador Pickering and Admiral Mullen to speak with us and our committee informally,” said Issa, “they again refused, and again there was silence by the minority.”
    link above

    The political hacks on FoxNews
    THE TWILIGHT ZONE THEME - YouTube

    not a single appearance by ed henry or jon scott on this entire well documented thread

    there's quite a bit of cnn, however

    abc, cbs, nyt, wapo, politico, the beast (tina brown), youtube, bloomberg, the ex, cns, natl jrn (ron fournier)...

    how could you miss em, they're LINKED

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    Re: Stevens Went To Benghazi So Clinton Could Announce A Permanent Post; ARB Omits

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    LOL!



    link above



    THE TWILIGHT ZONE THEME - YouTube

    not a single appearance by ed henry or jon scott on this entire well documented thread

    there's quite a bit of cnn, however

    abc, cbs, nyt, wapo, politico, the beast (tina brown), youtube, bloomberg, the ex, cns, natl jrn (ron fournier)...

    how could you miss em, they're LINKED
    I knew you were incapable of having an intelligent discussion when I saw you didn't know how to use capital letters...and I must say, you didn't prove me wrong.

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    Re: Stevens Went To Benghazi So Clinton Could Announce A Permanent Post; ARB Omits

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    I knew you were incapable of having an intelligent discussion when I saw you didn't know how to use capital letters...and I must say, you didn't prove me wrong.
    I don't mind sloppy use of lowercase nearly so much as I mind silly personal attacks hoping to substitute for on-thread opinion.

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    Re: Stevens Went To Benghazi So Clinton Could Announce A Permanent Post; ARB Omits

    oversight's letter to pickering inviting him to appear

    http://abcnews.go.com/images/Politic...azi%203-14.pdf

    per abc, known affiliate of fox

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    Re: Stevens Went To Benghazi So Clinton Could Announce A Permanent Post; ARB Omits

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    I don't mind sloppy use of lowercase nearly so much as I mind silly personal attacks hoping to substitute for on-thread opinion.
    Since I've contributed a lot more opinion on this thread than you maybe you should watch your own use of personal attacks, nota bene.



    Just out of curiosity....did you used to call yourself Lumina on another forum?

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    Re: Stevens Went To Benghazi So Clinton Could Announce A Permanent Post; ARB Omits

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    oversight's letter to pickering inviting him to appear

    http://abcnews.go.com/images/Politic...azi%203-14.pdf

    per abc, known affiliate of fox
    Ambassador Pickering was on NPR today telling everyone that he asked to join the hearing panel on Wednesday, but a majority of Republicans on the oversight committee voted against it. I hope the Republicans decide to let him testify because it sure sounds like he's got a lot to say. lol

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    Re: Stevens Went To Benghazi So Clinton Could Announce A Permanent Post; ARB Omits

    Quote Originally Posted by The Prof View Post
    according to gregory hicks, #2 in libya to chris stevens, the reason the ambassador was in benghazi on 9-11 in the first place is because . . .

    The crazy rightwing conspiracy thickens.

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