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    Re: Stevens Went To Benghazi So Clinton Could Announce A Permanent Post; ARB Omits

    Quote Originally Posted by radioman View Post
    HRC, allegedly, wanted to announce a permanent post?
    Why on God's green earth was that a significant goal, when most Americans couldn't have cared less about Libya or a "permanent post" in Benghazi.
    In fairness, most Americans don't care about the vast majority of permanent missions we have in the world.

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    Re: Stevens Went To Benghazi So Clinton Could Announce A Permanent Post; ARB Omits

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Fabulous View Post
    Wow!!

    You totally rebutted EVERYTHING in the OP with just 8 words!

    wow u sure told me.

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    Re: Stevens Went To Benghazi So Clinton Could Announce A Permanent Post; ARB Omits

    by christmas, everyone will know
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    Doubtful.
    By Christmas, you'll be making an equally baseless timeline prediction......New Years?, nah.... Presidents Day?, nah.......ooh, ooh, ooh...I've got it...April Fools Day.
    Good luck, prof.
    You need it.
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    Re: Stevens Went To Benghazi So Clinton Could Announce A Permanent Post; ARB Omits

    most Americans don't care about the vast majority of permanent missions we have in the world.
    according to sworn testimony from the foggy bottom careerist who was promoted to libya, who served with distinction under 3 presidents, who both hillary and her boss called after the attack to praise him for his heroism...

    according to that eyewitness account, some people apparently do

    "ambassador stevens was in benghazi on september 11, 2012, to work toward making it a permanent state department post," swore the man who worked with and took over for the ambassador when he died

    "he felt that he had a political imperative to go to benghazi and represent the united states there in order to move the project forward to make the benghazi consulate a permanent constituent post”

    “chris told me that in his exit interview with the secretary after he was sworn in, the secretary said, ‘we need to make benghazi a permanent post,’ and chris said, ‘i'll make it happen’”

    link above

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    Re: Stevens Went To Benghazi So Clinton Could Announce A Permanent Post; ARB Omits

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarcogito View Post
    In fairness, most Americans don't care about the vast majority of permanent missions we have in the world.
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    Correct.
    That's why I doubt HRC was lusting for this permanent mission.
    Not much of a resume enhancer, I would say.
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    Re: Stevens Went To Benghazi So Clinton Could Announce A Permanent Post; ARB Omits

    I doubt HRC was lusting for this
    on the one hand, not a word of objection from the members of cummings' caucus...

    on the other, "i doubt..."

    one open mouthed kneejerk's mere unsourced opinion is worthless

    ie, if you aint got a link you're outta luck

    why won't pickering and mullen testify?

    wapo:

    Clinton and her senior aides should have paid more attention to deteriorating security in Libya over the months preceding the attacks, along with requests from the post for additional resources, said Eric Nordstrom, who served as the embassy’s security chief until July.

    If for no other reason, Nordstrom said, Clinton was planning to travel to Libya later in the year and had signaled that she wanted the United States to turn its temporary mission in Benghazi into a formal diplomatic post.
    link above

    politico:

    Late in the day, Hicks told the committee that Clinton was the reason Stevens was in Benghazi.

    “We understood the secretary planned to visit Tripoli later in the year,” Hicks said. “We hoped she would be able to announce a permanent position there.”

    “[Clinton told him], ‘We need to make Benghazi a permanent post,’ and Chris said, ‘I’ll make it happen,’” Hicks said.
    Benghazi hearing: State officials get emotional - POLITICO.com

    how could they put the ambassador in a previously attacked consulate with a hole in the wall, big enough for 40 men, which failed by far foggy bottom's own security standards, such that stevens' visit required the personal assent of the secretary of state?

    why when hillary went to benghazi the previous october was there a fleet of navy offshore just in case?

    did they think things were less dangerous in september of '12?

    after the assassination attempt against the brit, after the ied that blew out the wall, after the attack on the red cross, after at least 5 serious terrorist actions in the previous 6 months?

    why did press spokesperson victoria nuland on the nite before susan-rice-sunday insist on expunging the mention of those previous attacks from the cia advisory prepared for the edification of the american people, according to the email chain in the possession of evil issa?

    The Benghazi Talking Points | The Weekly Standard

    stay tuned

    for months
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    Re: Stevens Went To Benghazi So Clinton Could Announce A Permanent Post; ARB Omits

    Prof...Prof...Prof......

    "how could they put the ambassador in a previously attacked consulate with a hole in the wall, big enough for 40 men, which failed by far foggy bottom's own security standards, such that stevens' visit required the personal assent of the secretary of state?"

    Just when you're starting to wear me down with your insistence that HRC wanted this permanent post....you lose me.
    If HRC wanted this permanent post, why wouldn't she have demanded the highest security possible?
    A smart pol like Clinton would never allow her presidential ambitions to be derailed by a security breach.
    I'm beginning to think you're not a real professor.
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    Re: Stevens Went To Benghazi So Clinton Could Announce A Permanent Post; ARB Omits

    Is there an embassy in Libya now? Just curious.

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    Re: Stevens Went To Benghazi So Clinton Could Announce A Permanent Post; ARB Omits

    There is nothing about Benghazi that is impeachable.

    There are some problems obviously.

    Prior to Benghazi - and certainly since - it should be clear that both the policies concerning security of embassies and any decisions made in such an instance should have been made along a military-Secretary of Defense chain of command, not the Secretary of State. Certainly, if time to ask or at any point the President could alter those decisions.

    In my opinion, the decision should have been essentially automatic. An embassy and embassy staff including ambassor was under armed attack - therefore we send everything we got and just keep sending them - rather than trying to do political-tactical-potential body count-study.

    The White House instantly went into a cover-up and diversionary mode, rather than just telling what happened, acknowledging mistakes and bad judgment, hold those accountable accountable, and adopt new procedures and policies accordingly.

    We also see what can happen when politicians with no experience are put into not just policy, but also pragmatic decisions positions. That is the only certain criticism. The response in this instant-decision-needed, should not have been snagged up by politicians.

    To make this a hate on Obama or blindly defend Obama is non-productive.

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    Re: Stevens Went To Benghazi So Clinton Could Announce A Permanent Post; ARB Omits

    A smart pol like Clinton would never allow her presidential ambitions to be derailed by a security breach
    LOL!

    link?

    meanwhile:

    December 2011: Terror plot thwarted, but Benghazi emergency plan warns of many Islamic terrorists still operating in area.

    March 2012: U.S. Embassy in Tripoli lead security officer, RSO Eric Nordstrom, requests additional security but later testified he received no response.

    April 10, 2012: An explosive device is thrown at a convoy carrying U.N. envoy Ian Martin.

    May 22, 2012: A rocket-propelled grenade hits the offices of the International Red Cross.

    June 6, 2012: An IED explodes outside the Benghazi consulate compound.

    June 11, 2012: An RPG hits a convoy carrying the British Ambassador. The U.K. closes its consulate. Col. Wood, military Site Security Team (SST) commander, is in Benghazi, and helps with emergency response.

    July 2012: RSO Nordstrom again requests additional security (perhaps via cable signed by Amb. Stevens dated July 9, see below).

    July 9, 2012: Amb. Stevens sends a cable requesting continued help from military SST and State Dept. MSD (Mobile Security Deployment team) through mid-Sept. 2012, saying that benchmarks for a drawdown have not been met. The teams are not extended.

    Early August: State Dept. removes the last of three 6-man State Dept. security teams and a 16-man military SST team from Libya.

    August 2, 2012: Ambassador Stevens sends a cable to D.C. requesting "protective detail bodyguard positions" -- saying the added guards "will fill the vacuum of security personnel currently at post... who will be leaving with the next month and will not be replaced." He called "the security condition in Libya ... unpredictable, volatile and violent."

    August 8, 2012: A cable from Amb. Stevens to D.C. says "a series of violent incidents has dominated the political landscape" and calls them "targeted and discriminate attacks."

    Aug. 27, 2012: The State Department issues a travel warning for Libya citing the threat of assassination and car bombings in Benghazi/Tripoli.
    Timeline: How Benghazi attack, probe unfolded - CBS News

    exactly WHO denied repeated requests for additional security, exactly WHO stripped the security team after the carjacking in august, exactly WHY were all references to the perilous situation in benghazi stripped from that much abused advisory by state spokespeople?

    why did state leave ambassador stevens' diary lying around for days for cnn to find to blab to the world the ambassador feared he was on an aq hit list?

    CNN finds, returns journal belonging to late U.S. ambassador - CNN.com

    why did hillary's "longtime aide" philippe reines crassly, crudely cuss out daily beast reporter michael hastings for criticizing the dept for its shoddiness

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...-****-off.html

    cuz hillary's too smart?

    an opinion with eyes squeezed shut is the product of an insufferable narcissm

    in other words, shut up and read

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