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    A connection between plastic guns and homegrown marijuana

    The eight-month experiment by Cody Wilson ended with a gun that can be assembled out of plastic parts, and made potentially lethal with the addition of a household nail and a bullet. Video has surfaced of Wilson firing the gun during testing.
    Wilson put the plans on the Internet for free, and they were quickly downloaded by more than 100,000 people.
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    The Supreme Court decided not to hear the Stewart case, but it told the Ninth Circuit to reconsider it in light of another Supreme Court case, Gonzales v. Raich.
    In the Raich case, the court ruled that the Commerce Clause gave Congress to right to ban homegrown marijuana, even when states approved it for medical uses, because of the potential effects on interstate commerce.
    In 2006, the Ninth Circuit issued a new ruling in the Stewart case, saying that, “We therefore hold that Congress had a rational basis for concluding that in the aggregate, possession of homemade machine guns could substantially affect interstate commerce in machine guns.”
    How this would be enforced, though, is beyond me. There is a first amendment issue here, as well as the fact that plans for homemade printed guns could be printed outside of our borders, where these laws would have no effect. And, of course, there is a second amendment issue as well. What do you think?

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    NOTE: I have already downloaded the plans for the gun, known as the Liberator, but don't intend to make one. This gun is good for ONE ROUND ONLY, if that. The firing of the bullet pretty much renders the weapon useless for future firings, due to destruction of the plastic material inside the barrel. And, at thousands of dollars to make a single weapon, this gun is pretty much economically unfeasable.

    NOTE2: If you do happen to make this gun, you will be breaking federal law if you do not put a slug of iron or steel that weighs at least 6 ounces somewhere in it, so it can be detected at airports, etc.
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    Re: A connection between plastic guns and homegrown marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
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    How this would be enforced, though, is beyond me. There is a first amendment issue here, as well as the fact that plans for homemade printed guns could be printed outside of our borders, where these laws would have no effect. And, of course, there is a second amendment issue as well. What do you think?

    Article is here
    .

    NOTE: I have already downloaded the plans for the gun, known as the Liberator, but don't intend to make one. This gun is good for ONE ROUND ONLY, if that. The firing of the bullet pretty much renders the weapon useless for future firings, due to destruction of the plastic material inside the barrel. And, at thousands of dollars to make a single weapon, this gun is pretty much economically unfeasable.

    NOTE2: If you do happen to make this gun, you will be breaking federal law if you do not put a slug of iron or steel that weighs at least 6 ounces somewhere in it, so it can be detected at airports, etc.
    I can go buy a gun on the street that I can use over and over and over again for $300 or less. Why would I want to pay thousands for a one-shot wonder? Since it can't be tested, I'm thinking we'll soon read about some nasty accidents. As to not being able to detect them with metal detectors? The sooner we ban all carry-ons from airplanes, the better as far as I'm concerned.

    I don't understand what the marijuana rulings and the plastic gun issue have in common.
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    Re: A connection between plastic guns and homegrown marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I can go buy a gun on the street that I can use over and over and over again for $300 or less. Why would I want to pay thousands for a one-shot wonder? Since it can't be tested, I'm thinking we'll soon read about some nasty accidents. As to not being able to detect them with metal detectors? The sooner we ban all carry-ons from airplanes, the better as far as I'm concerned.

    I don't understand what the marijuana rulings and the plastic gun issue have in common.
    I think Dana has been smoking plastic dope.










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    Re: A connection between plastic guns and homegrown marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    NOTE: I have already downloaded the plans for the gun, known as the Liberator, but don't intend to make one. This gun is good for ONE ROUND ONLY, if that. The firing of the bullet pretty much renders the weapon useless for future firings, due to destruction of the plastic material inside the barrel. And, at thousands of dollars to make a single weapon, this gun is pretty much economically unfeasable.
    That will change as the technology improves.

    NOTE2: If you do happen to make this gun, you will be breaking federal law if you do not put a slug of iron or steel that weighs at least 6 ounces somewhere in it, so it can be detected at airports, etc.
    I'm sure that will stop the criminals.
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    Re: A connection between plastic guns and homegrown marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    And



    How this would be enforced, though, is beyond me. There is a first amendment issue here, as well as the fact that plans for homemade printed guns could be printed outside of our borders, where these laws would have no effect. And, of course, there is a second amendment issue as well. What do you think?

    Article is here
    .

    NOTE: I have already downloaded the plans for the gun, known as the Liberator, but don't intend to make one. This gun is good for ONE ROUND ONLY, if that. The firing of the bullet pretty much renders the weapon useless for future firings, due to destruction of the plastic material inside the barrel. And, at thousands of dollars to make a single weapon, this gun is pretty much economically unfeasable.

    NOTE2: If you do happen to make this gun, you will be breaking federal law if you do not put a slug of iron or steel that weighs at least 6 ounces somewhere in it, so it can be detected at airports, etc.
    Then there are the nagging issues of that $30,000 3D printer, the required plastic medium, and the CAD software.....

    One can buy a lot of guns and ammo for $30,000+.
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    Re: A connection between plastic guns and homegrown marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    Then there are the nagging issues of that $30,000 3D printer, the required plastic medium, and the CAD software.....

    One can buy a lot of guns and ammo for $30,000+.
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    Re: A connection between plastic guns and homegrown marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by Risky Thicket View Post
    I think Dana has been smoking plastic dope.
    Hmm....I seem to remember Cheech and Chong driving a panel van made out of plasticized marijuana. I figure that it's only a matter of time before handguns are made out of "fiberweed".

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    Re: A connection between plastic guns and homegrown marijuana

    Anybody remember the original "Liberator"?

    Single shot .45. Dropped in Europe during WW2.

    Took longer to load than it did to make.
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    Re: A connection between plastic guns and homegrown marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    I can go buy a gun on the street that I can use over and over and over again for $300 or less. Why would I want to pay thousands for a one-shot wonder? Since it can't be tested, I'm thinking we'll soon read about some nasty accidents. As to not being able to detect them with metal detectors? The sooner we ban all carry-ons from airplanes, the better as far as I'm concerned.

    I don't understand what the marijuana rulings and the plastic gun issue have in common.
    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
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    How this would be enforced, though, is beyond me. There is a first amendment issue here, as well as the fact that plans for homemade printed guns could be printed outside of our borders, where these laws would have no effect. And, of course, there is a second amendment issue as well. What do you think?

    Article is here
    .

    NOTE: I have already downloaded the plans for the gun, known as the Liberator, but don't intend to make one. This gun is good for ONE ROUND ONLY, if that. The firing of the bullet pretty much renders the weapon useless for future firings, due to destruction of the plastic material inside the barrel. And, at thousands of dollars to make a single weapon, this gun is pretty much economically unfeasable.

    NOTE2: If you do happen to make this gun, you will be breaking federal law if you do not put a slug of iron or steel that weighs at least 6 ounces somewhere in it, so it can be detected at airports, etc.
    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    Then there are the nagging issues of that $30,000 3D printer, the required plastic medium, and the CAD software.....




    One can buy a lot of guns and ammo for $30,000+.




    You're calculating the cost of the printer in the price. That'd be like saying: "That report for school cost me $200 to print".

    In reality the gun's materials cost under $10 once you have the printer ($500-$1200 for the printer, the software is free.)

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    Re: A connection between plastic guns and homegrown marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Hmm....I seem to remember Cheech and Chong driving a panel van made out of plasticized marijuana. I figure that it's only a matter of time before handguns are made out of "fiberweed".
    A real smoking gun.










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