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    Re: A connection between plastic guns and homegrown marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    The real problem is when they start merging 3D printers with computer controlled lathing machines and extruders at a cheap price.

    The lathe can build the parts that have major stress easily from blocks of raw steel, the extruders can lay down fibers such as thin glass that then go to the 3D printer for production of things like Carbon Fiber. The 3D printer alone is not a big issue, it's the merging of it with other machines that when paired with design software can produce reliable, relatively affordable, safe firearms. It wouldn't be surprised that such a machine would also have a robotic arm and welder for automatic final assembly. You could literally load the raw materials, press go and get a rifle out in half an hour. But we are not there yet, nor will we be for a while.
    Realistically, you can buy every components to any gun, including full auto, except for a fully functional reciever, and you can do it all anonymously and interstate commerce doesn't even touch you. One company is offering 80% complete AR15 receivers, which can be sold as simply components, which you would to have to complete with simple power tools.

    It's all out there.

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    Re: A connection between plastic guns and homegrown marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by obvious Child View Post
    And if you're a criminal, why would you spend that kind of money on a one shot pistol when you can get a real firearm for much less?

    Furthermore, making a plastic pistol on a $500 3D printer is just asking for trouble. Like a hospital bill. When the thing fails in your hand.
    For now, the technology is brand new. Give it a few years. Today criminals aren't spending $100 on a printer so that they can print ransom notes, they already have printers.

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    Re: A connection between plastic guns and homegrown marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by RabidAlpaca View Post
    For now, the technology is brand new. Give it a few years. Today criminals aren't spending $100 on a printer so that they can print ransom notes, they already have printers.
    Brand new? Not really. It's been around for at least half a decade.

    The materials themselves simply aren't there to make it a better option over simply getting guns how criminals do it now. It's one thing to have a factory capable of producing composite materials that are then formed into guns by computer controlled machines and expertise workers. It's another to take a crappy photopolymer and print it into something that has a decent chance of failure on the first shot.
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    Re: A connection between plastic guns and homegrown marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptinSarcastic View Post
    Realistically, you can buy every components to any gun, including full auto, except for a fully functional reciever, and you can do it all anonymously and interstate commerce doesn't even touch you. One company is offering 80% complete AR15 receivers, which can be sold as simply components, which you would to have to complete with simple power tools.

    It's all out there.
    That a lot of work though. The scenario I gave will be a big draw to large organized crime once the price comes down. Making entirely new weapons from scratch is far less traceable then buying parts and putting them together. And it's much easier. Buy stock glass, some chemicals, blocks of steel and press go. Out comes a batch of rifles. No paper trail.
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    Re: A connection between plastic guns and homegrown marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    Then there are the nagging issues of that $30,000 3D printer, the required plastic medium, and the CAD software.....

    One can buy a lot of guns and ammo for $30,000+.
    How many of those guns will make it through an airport scanner?

    edit: Not that I'm certain this thing would. Not sure how sensitive their equipment is to plastic items.
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    Re: A connection between plastic guns and homegrown marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    How many of those guns will make it through an airport scanner?

    edit: Not that I'm certain this thing would. Not sure how sensitive their equipment is to plastic items.
    The prototype has a 6 oz chunk of steel in it to make it BATFE legal.
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    Re: A connection between plastic guns and homegrown marijuana

    Quote Originally Posted by SMTA View Post
    Then there are the nagging issues of that $30,000 3D printer, the required plastic medium, and the CAD software.....

    One can buy a lot of guns and ammo for $30,000+.
    They'll get cheaper over time. In 5-years I bet they will be $1,000 or $2,000 bucks.

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