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Diplomat Says Questions Over Benghazi Led to Demotion

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A State Department official on Wednesday offered the first public testimony from an American diplomat who was on the ground in Libya the night last September when the American diplomatic compound in Benghazi was attacked. And he said he was later demoted for raising questions about how the attack was handled.

Mr. Hicks and two other State Department officials who were witnesses said they felt that the investigation of the episode undertaken by the department was inadequate because many people who were directly involved in the attacks — including some of them — were not interviewed.

“They stopped short of interviewing people who I personally know were involved in key decisions,” said Eric Nordstrom, an official in the State Department’s Bureau of Diplomatic Security.

And when Representative Jason Chaffetz, Republican of Utah, visited Libya to investigate further, Mr. Hicks said his bosses told him not to talk to the congressman. When he did anyway, and a State Department lawyer was excluded from one meeting because he lacked sufficient security clearance, Mr. Hicks said he received an angry phone call from Mrs. Clinton’s chief of staff, Cheryl Mills.


“I was stunned,” Mr. Hicks said when asked what he thought when he heard Ms. Rice’s explanation. “My jaw dropped and I was embarrassed.”
“Why in the world would Susan Rice go on five talk shows and perpetuate a demonstrably false narrative?” asked Representative Trey Gowdy, Republican of South Carolina.

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/05/09/u...bya-of-benghazi-attack.html?pagewanted=2&_r=0

It appears the Obama administration did not want this investigation to find root causes... er did not want to find them with blood on their hands.
 
It appears the Obama administration did not want this investigation to find root causes... er did not want to find them with blood on their hands.

it appears to me someone wants to blame the administration for his crappy work which got him demoted. Seriously, do you actually believe every demoted person is the victim of some horrible conspiracy and that they were really good workers who are just victims? If you do believe that i have a great way for you to lose weight while making millions of dollars.
 
it appears to me someone wants to blame the administration for his crappy work which got him demoted. Seriously, do you actually believe every demoted person is the victim of some horrible conspiracy and that they were really good workers who are just victims? If you do believe that i have a great way for you to lose weight while making millions of dollars.

Okay. Why was he really demoted?
 
Okay. Why was he really demoted?

Poor work? he is a whiner? he doesn't play well with others? For the same reasons every other person gets demoted and wants to blame some huge conspiracy for their own failures.

I would figure the party of self responsibility would recognize how much easier it is to blame others for your failure than to take a look at how you screwed up. But then again see my sig.
 
Okay. Why was he really demoted?

At the very beginning of his testimony he said that he was 'relaxing in his villa watching television' when he missed TWO urgent calls from the Ambassador. He was too busy watching tv to answer the Ambassador's phone calls and didn't even notice until someone barged into the room to tell him that the consulate was under attack. That seems like a good place to start.
 
Poor work? he is a whiner? he doesn't play well with others? For the same reasons every other person gets demoted and wants to blame some huge conspiracy for their own failures.

I would figure the party of self responsibility would recognize how much easier it is to blame others for your failure than to take a look at how you screwed up. But then again see my sig.

You're deluding yourself.
You're really doing the Demokrats no favors posting your drivel.

Read the following... start to finish. There are 10 short paragraphs. Then I suggest you ponder it for an hour.
Benghazi: Beginning of end - The Hill - covering Congress, Politics, Political Campaigns and Capitol Hill | TheHill.com
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Obama is screwed. Hillary is screwed. They're done by their own deceits. Fork in fleisch. Finito. Done. Cooked. Over.
This is Obama's Watergate. Like Felonious Bill Clinton he won't leave either, he hasn't the class. Obama might not be impeached... but he'll be remembered as an incompetent, a political vampire with blood on his hands who put power ahead of doing the right thing.

Obama claimed he had great judgment. That's laughable.
 
You're deluding yourself.
You're really doing the Demokrats no favors posting your drivel.

Just because you will believe anything as long as it is against Obama.
Read the following... start to finish. There are 10 short paragraphs. Then I suggest you ponder it for an hour.
Benghazi: Beginning of end - The Hill - covering Congress, Politics, Political Campaigns and Capitol Hill | TheHill.com
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third word in your link, opinion. It is not fact. It is a theory. Please show us some facts, or at least something that might possibly be more true than some guy is bitching because he was demoted.
Obama is screwed. Hillary is screwed. They're done by their own deceits. Fork in fleisch. Finito. Done. Cooked. Over.
This is Obama's Watergate. Like Felonious Bill Clinton he won't leave either, he hasn't the class. Obama might not be impeached... but he'll be remembered as an incompetent, a political vampire with blood on his hands who put power ahead of doing the right thing.

Yet he will still be here tomorrow, and unless you personally are writing all the future opinions of him that is still your opinion. But since you do not know the difference between the opinion of some biased guy on DP and actual future events i guess there is not much more you can do but yell louder.
Obama claimed he had great judgment. That's laughable.

About as laughable as you claiming to know the difference between fact and opinion.
 
At the very beginning of his testimony he said that he was 'relaxing in his villa watching television' when he missed TWO urgent calls from the Ambassador. He was too busy watching tv to answer the Ambassador's phone calls and didn't even notice until someone barged into the room to tell him that the consulate was under attack. That seems like a good place to start.

now there is a reliable guy you want to trust with complaints about his higher ups. The University of republican lies and propaganda has really started going downhill in the past few years. It is almost like they are doing online courses.
 
Just because you will believe anything as long as it is against Obama.


third word in your link, opinion. It is not fact. It is a theory. Please show us some facts, or at least something that might possibly be more true than some guy is bitching because he was demoted.


Yet he will still be here tomorrow, and unless you personally are writing all the future opinions of him that is still your opinion. But since you do not know the difference between the opinion of some biased guy on DP and actual future events i guess there is not much more you can do but yell louder.


About as laughable as you claiming to know the difference between fact and opinion.

Congratulations!
You keep posting and showing the world your critical thinking skills. I'm happy you're an active Demokrat with fast fingers.

http://tinyurl.com/bqnal4x
Learn it. I dare ya.
 
Congratulations!
You keep posting and showing the world your critical thinking skills. I'm happy you're an active Demokrat with fast fingers.

http://tinyurl.com/bqnal4x
Learn it. I dare ya.

yet you still have not offered up anything but your opinions. they are not even good opinions based on reliable people.
 
it appears to me someone wants to blame the administration for his crappy work which got him demoted. Seriously, do you actually believe every demoted person is the victim of some horrible conspiracy and that they were really good workers who are just victims? If you do believe that i have a great way for you to lose weight while making millions of dollars.

No one except the terminally corrupt are apologizing for this administration any more. You people really screwed the rest of us. You've put into power the most incompetent and criminal administrations in our history.

Hillary to the Father of Slain Seal speaking about the guy who made the You Tube video. "We're going to have that person arrested and prosecuted"

Barrack Obama, when an American Embassy was under attack, ......"went to bed " as Americans were losing their lives.

Look we get it, you people want this to go away, but after today's testimony, it's going to get much worse for your criminals.
 
No one except the terminally corrupt are apologizing for this administration any more. You people really screwed the rest of us. You've put into power the most incompetent and criminal administrations in our history.

Hillary to the Father of Slain Seal speaking about the guy who made the You Tube video. "We're going to have that person arrested and prosecuted"

Barrack Obama, when an American Embassy was under attack, ......"went to bed " as Americans were losing their lives.

Look we get it, you people want this to go away, but after today's testimony, it's going to get much worse for your criminals.

Lol, Nixon.
 
yet you still have not offered up anything but your opinions. they are not even good opinions based on reliable people.

Who's reliable ? The people that chose to manufacture a lie about a "youtube" video to cover up a terrorist attack ?

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THe people that removed any mention of the terrorist in the talking points ?
 
Who's reliable ? The people that chose to manufacture a lie about a "youtube" video to cover up a terrorist attack ?

THe people that removed any mention of the terrorist in the talking points ?

There is nothing about a youtube video in there. Actually, version 3 is a diluted version of 2 and 1. In neither of the 3 version does there seem to be anything about a YouTube video. Maybe I missed it?
 
Lol, Nixon.

What an PATHETIC and absolute dishonest attempt at arbitrary comparison. Nixon didn't leave a Embassy out to dry by ignoring previous terrorist attacks and repeated request for extra security, and when the Embassy WAS being attacked, walk off and " go to bed " while Americans were losing their lives. Nixon didn't then lie to their family members and to Americans and drum up some false Narrative about a video NO ONE had seen, because it was politically expedient.

Nixon didn't go over seas and explain to a bunch of Muslims that " the video" was a part of our first amendment. Nixon didn't have his UN Ambassador go on 5 separate News TV shows and repeat the lie.

Nixon didn't destroy the American economy, pass a law that is currently forcing retailers to cut employee hours down to below 30 a week, borrow over 6 trillion and have nothing to show for it. Nixon didn't have his Central Bank appointee perpetually pump printed currency into the financial markets so his useful idiots could brag about the Stock markets new Highs.

Nixon didn't give banks massive amounts of free money, while the middle class shrunk to record lows, Nixon didn't pass a 800 billion dollar "stimulus" that only stimulated Government DEBT and gave away billions to now bankrupt green energy companies.

Nixon was a million times more of a leader and more competent that the criminal you folks imposed on the rest of us as consumer confidence now dips to a 30 year low and 1 in 6 people now struggle with poverty as 1 in 5 children struggle with poverty.

Nixon...LOL !!!! What a fu***n joke man. Look, I 'm a big fan of Hunter S Thompson too, but that's FICTION and he's dead.
 
There is nothing about a youtube video in there. Actually, version 3 is a diluted version of 2 and 1. In neither of the 3 version does there seem to be anything about a YouTube video. Maybe I missed it?

What are you talking about ?

What did the idiots at the WH and State Departments prattle on about for ten days ? What did the UN Ambassador Susan Rice say when she went on 5 TV shows ? What did Hillary say to the Seals Father " we're going to get the guy who made that video "...

Fu***in liars and incompetence, that's what folks like you subjected the rest of us to.
 
What an PATHETIC and absolute dishonest attempt at arbitrary comparison. Nixon didn't leave a Embassy out to dry by ignoring previous terrorist attacks and repeated request for extra security, and when the Embassy WAS being attacked, walk off and " go to bed " while Americans were losing their lives. Nixon didn't then lie to their family members and to Americans and drum up some false Narrative about a video NO ONE had seen, because it was politically expedient.

You're right. He broke US law and was then pardoned. That's different. What US law did Obama break when it come to Benghazi?

Nixon didn't go over seas and explain to a bunch of Muslims that " the video" was a part of our first amendment. Nixon didn't have his UN Ambassador go on 5 separate News TV shows and repeat the lie.

Nixon didn't destroy the American economy, pass a law that is currently forcing retailers to cut employee hours down to below 30 a week, borrow over 6 trillion and have nothing to show for it. Nixon didn't have his Central Bank appointee perpetually pump printed currency into the financial markets so his useful idiots could brag about the Stock markets new Highs.

Nixon didn't give banks massive amounts of free money, while the middle class shrunk to record lows, Nixon didn't pass a 800 billion dollar "stimulus" that only stimulated Government DEBT and gave away billions to now bankrupt green energy companies.

Nixon was a million times more of a leader and more competent that the criminal you folks imposed on the rest of us as consumer confidence now dips to a 30 year low and 1 in 6 people now struggle with poverty as 1 in 5 children struggle with poverty.

Nixon...LOL !!!! What a fu***n joke man. Look, I 'm a big fan of Hunter S Thompson too, but that's FICTION and he's dead.

Watergate scandal - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Your weak attempt at trying to paint "incompetence" in the same light as criminal action is beyond me. Lol, American economy destroyed, good lord, go out and get a job or try picking up a history book? It'd be nice.
 
What are you talking about ?

What did the idiots at the WH and State Departments prattle on about for ten days ? What did the UN Ambassador Susan Rice say when she went on 5 TV shows ? What did Hillary say to the Seals Father " we're going to get the guy who made that video "...

Fu***in liars and incompetence, that's what folks like you subjected the rest of us to.

You don't understand the words "current assessment" do you?
 
No one except the terminally corrupt are apologizing for this administration any more. You people really screwed the rest of us. You've put into power the most incompetent and criminal administrations in our history.

i didn't vote for little bush either time he ran. I am not really sure why that has anything to do with benghazi.
Hillary to the Father of Slain Seal speaking about the guy who made the You Tube video. "We're going to have that person arrested and prosecuted"

Barrack Obama, when an American Embassy was under attack, ......"went to bed " as Americans were losing their lives.

How do you know? Just because you are relying on the word of a guy who admits to sleepingt through an attack and then blames corruption for his demotion. Your sources are not very accurate. At least when bush was caught reading childrens books as the twin towers fell we had pictures and video of him doing it. I am sure you have some pictures or video of obama doing the same thing for us, right?
Look we get it, you people want this to go away, but after today's testimony, it's going to get much worse for your criminals.

Yes, and then there is your noted lying. Though i agree there is something a bit silly about putting a poorly defended consulate in a place like benghazi, mistakes liek that are not criminal. Do you actually have a law someone has broken here? How are we supposed to take anything you say seriously when you make such outlandish and crazy things up.
 
What happened in Benghazi was terrible. As were these:

13 Benghazis That Occurred on Bush’s Watch Without a Peep from Fox News

January 22, 2002. Calcutta, India. Gunmen associated with Harkat-ul-Jihad al-Islami attack the U.S. Consulate. Five people are killed.

June 14, 2002. Karachi, Pakistan. Suicide bomber connected with al-Qaida attacks the U.S. Consulate, killing 12 and injuring 51.

October 12, 2002. Denpasar, Indonesia. U.S. diplomatic offices bombed as part of a string of “Bali Bombings.” No fatalities.

February 28, 2003. Islamabad, Pakistan. Several gunmen fire upon the U.S. Embassy. Two people are killed.

May 12, 2003. Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. Armed al-Qaida terrorists storm the diplomatic compound killing 36 people including nine Americans. The assailants committed suicide by detonating a truck bomb.

July 30, 2004. Tashkent, Uzbekistan. A suicide bomber from the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan attacks the U.S. Embassy, killing two people.

December 6, 2004. Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. Al-Qaida terrorists storm the U.S. Consulate and occupy the perimeter wall. Nine people are killed.

March 2, 2006. Karachi, Pakistan again. Suicide bomber attacks the U.S. Consulate killing four people, including U.S. diplomat David Foy who was directly targeted by the attackers. (I wonder if Lindsey Graham or Fox News would even recognize the name “David Foy.” This is the third Karachi terrorist attack in four years on what’s considered American soil.)

September 12, 2006. Damascus, Syria. Four armed gunmen shouting “Allahu akbar” storm the U.S. Embassy using grenades, automatic weapons, a car bomb and a truck bomb. Four people are killed, 13 are wounded.

January 12, 2007. Athens, Greece. Members of a Greek terrorist group called the Revolutionary Struggle fire a rocket-propelled grenade at the U.S. Embassy. No fatalities.

March 18, 2008. Sana’a, Yemen. Members of the al-Qaida-linked Islamic Jihad of Yemen fire a mortar at the U.S. Embassy. The shot misses the embassy, but hits nearby school killing two.

July 9, 2008. Istanbul, Turkey. Four armed terrorists attack the U.S. Consulate. Six people are killed.

September 17, 2008. Sana’a, Yemen. Terrorists dressed as military officials attack the U.S. Embassy with an arsenal of weapons including RPGs and detonate two car bombs. Sixteen people are killed, including an American student and her husband (they had been married for three weeks when the attack occurred). This is the second attack on this embassy in seven months.​
 
Who's reliable ? The people that chose to manufacture a lie about a "youtube" video to cover up a terrorist attack ?

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THe people that removed any mention of the terrorist in the talking points ?

WTF is that? Did i get run over by the turnip truck or something that would have me believe that is something official? You may be that gullible, i am not. before you go hunting for a credible source, those are not the results of an investigation and are the guesses made by people who admittedly made a mistake in their first theories which were corrected when they investigated. Like I told other republican guys, unless you can prove Ovbama is Omniscient, or at least had some way of magically knowing everything that happened in benghazi without an actual investigation, you are wrong. Your claim obama knowingly lied relies on him actually knowing what happened which none of this proves at all.
 
What happened in Benghazi was terrible. As were these:

13 Benghazis That Occurred on Bush’s Watch Without a Peep from Fox News

January 22, 2002. Calcutta, India. Gunmen associated with Harkat-ul-Jihad al-Islami attack the U.S. Consulate. Five people are killed.

June 14, 2002. Karachi, Pakistan. Suicide bomber connected with al-Qaida attacks the U.S. Consulate, killing 12 and injuring 51.

October 12, 2002. Denpasar, Indonesia. U.S. diplomatic offices bombed as part of a string of “Bali Bombings.” No fatalities.

February 28, 2003. Islamabad, Pakistan. Several gunmen fire upon the U.S. Embassy. Two people are killed.

May 12, 2003. Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. Armed al-Qaida terrorists storm the diplomatic compound killing 36 people including nine Americans. The assailants committed suicide by detonating a truck bomb.

July 30, 2004. Tashkent, Uzbekistan. A suicide bomber from the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan attacks the U.S. Embassy, killing two people.

December 6, 2004. Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. Al-Qaida terrorists storm the U.S. Consulate and occupy the perimeter wall. Nine people are killed.

March 2, 2006. Karachi, Pakistan again. Suicide bomber attacks the U.S. Consulate killing four people, including U.S. diplomat David Foy who was directly targeted by the attackers. (I wonder if Lindsey Graham or Fox News would even recognize the name “David Foy.” This is the third Karachi terrorist attack in four years on what’s considered American soil.)

September 12, 2006. Damascus, Syria. Four armed gunmen shouting “Allahu akbar” storm the U.S. Embassy using grenades, automatic weapons, a car bomb and a truck bomb. Four people are killed, 13 are wounded.

January 12, 2007. Athens, Greece. Members of a Greek terrorist group called the Revolutionary Struggle fire a rocket-propelled grenade at the U.S. Embassy. No fatalities.

March 18, 2008. Sana’a, Yemen. Members of the al-Qaida-linked Islamic Jihad of Yemen fire a mortar at the U.S. Embassy. The shot misses the embassy, but hits nearby school killing two.

July 9, 2008. Istanbul, Turkey. Four armed terrorists attack the U.S. Consulate. Six people are killed.

September 17, 2008. Sana’a, Yemen. Terrorists dressed as military officials attack the U.S. Embassy with an arsenal of weapons including RPGs and detonate two car bombs. Sixteen people are killed, including an American student and her husband (they had been married for three weeks when the attack occurred). This is the second attack on this embassy in seven months.​

that is over 80 american state department deaths, and multiple consulates attacked. That is 20 times worse then benghazi and yet none of the benghazi truthers even bat an eyelash. It is almost like they don't even care.
 
it appears to me someone wants to blame the administration for his crappy work which got him demoted.

Okay. Why was he really demoted?

Isn't it amazing? The "logic" of the Demokrats?

We have had no other than Bob Woodward threatened over peanuts... Lanny Davis too... and we have a situation where it is in the dying days of an election, we have a terror attack on 911, we have changing stories about that attack.

Hicks testimony and that of others, and the fact they are paying politics with the 4th witness points to lies, deceit and a coverup.

When I was a Commi-Lib (but had an open mind), and was learning about the greatest good for the greatest number, a huge turnoff was discovering how deceitful the Demokrats are. How they are dishonest to the core... now... back then there were a couple stand up D's like Sam Nunn... but on the whole they are dishonest, misguided and dangerous to our Liberty.

If I didn't know better, I say tererun is Debbie Wasserman Schultz. Couldn't find the truth if it was her anus and she was standing on a mirror trying to find it with both hands.
 
Poor work? he is a whiner? he doesn't play well with others? For the same reasons every other person gets demoted and wants to blame some huge conspiracy for their own failures.

That doesn't describe Greg Hicks, though.
 
That doesn't describe Greg Hicks, though.

Actually by his own admittance it seems to describe him well. he admits to failing at his job, and then blames the administration for demoting him for a completely different reason despite clearly recognizing he failed to do his job.
 
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