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    Re: Diplomat Says Questions Over Benghazi Led to Demotion

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Who's reliable ? The people that chose to manufacture a lie about a "youtube" video to cover up a terrorist attack ?

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    THe people that removed any mention of the terrorist in the talking points ?
    WTF is that? Did i get run over by the turnip truck or something that would have me believe that is something official? You may be that gullible, i am not. before you go hunting for a credible source, those are not the results of an investigation and are the guesses made by people who admittedly made a mistake in their first theories which were corrected when they investigated. Like I told other republican guys, unless you can prove Ovbama is Omniscient, or at least had some way of magically knowing everything that happened in benghazi without an actual investigation, you are wrong. Your claim obama knowingly lied relies on him actually knowing what happened which none of this proves at all.

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    Re: Diplomat Says Questions Over Benghazi Led to Demotion

    Quote Originally Posted by poweRob View Post
    What happened in Benghazi was terrible. As were these:

    13 Benghazis That Occurred on Bush’s Watch Without a Peep from Fox News

    January 22, 2002. Calcutta, India. Gunmen associated with Harkat-ul-Jihad al-Islami attack the U.S. Consulate. Five people are killed.

    June 14, 2002. Karachi, Pakistan. Suicide bomber connected with al-Qaida attacks the U.S. Consulate, killing 12 and injuring 51.

    October 12, 2002. Denpasar, Indonesia. U.S. diplomatic offices bombed as part of a string of “Bali Bombings.” No fatalities.

    February 28, 2003. Islamabad, Pakistan. Several gunmen fire upon the U.S. Embassy. Two people are killed.

    May 12, 2003. Riyadh, Saudi Arabia. Armed al-Qaida terrorists storm the diplomatic compound killing 36 people including nine Americans. The assailants committed suicide by detonating a truck bomb.

    July 30, 2004. Tashkent, Uzbekistan. A suicide bomber from the Islamic Movement of Uzbekistan attacks the U.S. Embassy, killing two people.

    December 6, 2004. Jeddah, Saudi Arabia. Al-Qaida terrorists storm the U.S. Consulate and occupy the perimeter wall. Nine people are killed.

    March 2, 2006. Karachi, Pakistan again. Suicide bomber attacks the U.S. Consulate killing four people, including U.S. diplomat David Foy who was directly targeted by the attackers. (I wonder if Lindsey Graham or Fox News would even recognize the name “David Foy.” This is the third Karachi terrorist attack in four years on what’s considered American soil.)

    September 12, 2006. Damascus, Syria. Four armed gunmen shouting “Allahu akbar” storm the U.S. Embassy using grenades, automatic weapons, a car bomb and a truck bomb. Four people are killed, 13 are wounded.

    January 12, 2007. Athens, Greece. Members of a Greek terrorist group called the Revolutionary Struggle fire a rocket-propelled grenade at the U.S. Embassy. No fatalities.

    March 18, 2008. Sana’a, Yemen. Members of the al-Qaida-linked Islamic Jihad of Yemen fire a mortar at the U.S. Embassy. The shot misses the embassy, but hits nearby school killing two.

    July 9, 2008. Istanbul, Turkey. Four armed terrorists attack the U.S. Consulate. Six people are killed.

    September 17, 2008. Sana’a, Yemen. Terrorists dressed as military officials attack the U.S. Embassy with an arsenal of weapons including RPGs and detonate two car bombs. Sixteen people are killed, including an American student and her husband (they had been married for three weeks when the attack occurred). This is the second attack on this embassy in seven months.
    that is over 80 american state department deaths, and multiple consulates attacked. That is 20 times worse then benghazi and yet none of the benghazi truthers even bat an eyelash. It is almost like they don't even care.

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    Re: Diplomat Says Questions Over Benghazi Led to Demotion

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    it appears to me someone wants to blame the administration for his crappy work which got him demoted.
    Quote Originally Posted by keymanjim View Post
    Okay. Why was he really demoted?
    Isn't it amazing? The "logic" of the Demokrats?

    We have had no other than Bob Woodward threatened over peanuts... Lanny Davis too... and we have a situation where it is in the dying days of an election, we have a terror attack on 911, we have changing stories about that attack.

    Hicks testimony and that of others, and the fact they are paying politics with the 4th witness points to lies, deceit and a coverup.

    When I was a Commi-Lib (but had an open mind), and was learning about the greatest good for the greatest number, a huge turnoff was discovering how deceitful the Demokrats are. How they are dishonest to the core... now... back then there were a couple stand up D's like Sam Nunn... but on the whole they are dishonest, misguided and dangerous to our Liberty.

    If I didn't know better, I say tererun is Debbie Wasserman Schultz. Couldn't find the truth if it was her anus and she was standing on a mirror trying to find it with both hands.
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    Re: Diplomat Says Questions Over Benghazi Led to Demotion

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    Poor work? he is a whiner? he doesn't play well with others? For the same reasons every other person gets demoted and wants to blame some huge conspiracy for their own failures.
    That doesn't describe Greg Hicks, though.

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    Re: Diplomat Says Questions Over Benghazi Led to Demotion

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarcogito View Post
    That doesn't describe Greg Hicks, though.
    Actually by his own admittance it seems to describe him well. he admits to failing at his job, and then blames the administration for demoting him for a completely different reason despite clearly recognizing he failed to do his job.

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    Re: Diplomat Says Questions Over Benghazi Led to Demotion

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    You're right. He broke US law and was then pardoned. That's different. What US law did Obama break when it come to Benghazi?



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    Your weak attempt at trying to paint "incompetence" in the same light as criminal action is beyond me. Lol, American economy destroyed, good lord, go out and get a job or try picking up a history book? It'd be nice.
    First, as to the law, there are plenty. We still need more to back up this testimony, but, start with obstructing an investigation.

    My suggestion is that you and other libs start looking at this objectively, and stop looking at it through protective lenses.
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    Re: Diplomat Says Questions Over Benghazi Led to Demotion

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    Actually by his own admittance it seems to describe him well. he admits to failing at his job, and then blames the administration for demoting him for a completely different reason despite clearly recognizing he failed to do his job.
    I am sure everyone there felt like a failure. Ever hear of survivor's guilt? And he probably feels like a failure for not getting help to his dying friends. It doesn't matter that it was out of his hands. Have you ever been in a situation like that?

    He is neither the best nor the worst Foreign Service Officer I have worked with and yet he has been effectively demoted while those who perform worse than him continue up the chain? The reasons are obvious.

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    Re: Diplomat Says Questions Over Benghazi Led to Demotion

    Quote Originally Posted by tererun View Post
    Poor work? he is a whiner? he doesn't play well with others? For the same reasons every other person gets demoted and wants to blame some huge conspiracy for their own failures.
    So it took them 22 years to figure that out?
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    Re: Diplomat Says Questions Over Benghazi Led to Demotion

    Quote Originally Posted by Sarcogito View Post
    That doesn't describe Greg Hicks, though.
    I think grief and survivor guilt describes Mr. Hicks. By his own admission he failed to respond when tipsters phoned in on where the Ambassador was. He rightfully worried it was a trap to lure more Americans into an ambush, so it is a bit puzzling he felt others should have made the decision to throw more Americans into a night time melee that NO ONE knew what were the true facts in Benghazi.

    I found his comment that never had a State department lawyer wanted to be present at a congressional fact finding meeting before. I didn't know how many times Mr.Hicks brief any Congressmen after a Consulate attack that caused the death of an Ambassador, can't have been too many. Seems very appropriate a State Counsel would be present at these meetings and Mr. Hicks should have welcomed that. I don't think too many folks truely thought Chaffetz was there in a non partisan capacity.

    I don't attack Mr.Hicks for his grief or guilt, nor his failure to react when the tipsters phoned in to tell him where Ambassador Stevens had been taken. I've seen Senior NCOs suffer terribly when troops or close friends are lost and these men KNEW there would be deaths.

    When it comes to the mis-statements made after the Benghazi attack I'd say the umbrage is staged partisan politics. As best as I can remember the beginning of a long and bloody reign of terror in Iraq that was the newly placed al-Queera in Iraq being described by Rumsfeld and Cheney as just a 'few dead enders' and the last gasp of a few 'die hards'. I seem to recall a few more than 4 Americans were killed in that affair.

    What I do see is a very partisan attack designed to smear Hillary Clinton as the GOP sees her as a real threat in the 2016 Presidential Elections. However I don't see this being more than a blip on the news cycle. I reckon the vast majority of citizens see this as GOP grandstanding and attempting to profit politically from a tragic death. As another poster pointed out there has been a baker's dozen of similar attacks during the BushII administration.

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    Re: Diplomat Says Questions Over Benghazi Led to Demotion

    The only thing tangible that has come out of this is that it should now be obvious to even the staunchest supporters of this administration that they lied about who was responsible. This in itself isn't going to bring down the regime, no one is going to jail, and I doubt anyone from the administration will even acknowledge it but at least it should now be obvious that, for whatever reason, this administration did NOT want to call it terrorism and had to be backed into a corner to do so.

    Personally, I believe it was all related to election year politics. Is there any other reason they would so blatantly lie that makes sense?
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